August 17, 2003
"Sean L. Palmer" <palmer.sean@verizon.net> wrote in message news:bhondi$nbe$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> What's wrong with Deimos?  Starts with the letter "D", it's a bright solar object, it ties in to DigitalMars.
>
> Someone else suggested calling it "Bright".  That's a good name.
>
> Sean
>
"Bright" sucks. It sounds even more pretentious than "D". Besides, Time Warner Cable just changed their name to "Bright House." And I'm sure you don't want to be associated with them.

Go with your first impulse, I always say. Deimos is the better of your suggestions.

Rich C.


August 17, 2003
> I understand the problem with googling on the letter D. I usually will google for "D Programming". The full name of D is the "D Programming Language".
>

I have no problem with the name, and renaming it now would do more harm than good. But perhaps you could add a view HTML meta-tags to the D webpages, to help search machines find it.

Something like
<meta name="keywords" content="D,programming,language,C,C++,Java,system
programming">



August 17, 2003
"Jeroen van Bemmel" <anonymous@somewhere.com> wrote in message news:bhouo8$14jg$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> > I understand the problem with googling on the letter D. I usually will google for "D Programming". The full name of D is the "D Programming Language".
> >
>
> I have no problem with the name, and renaming it now would do more harm
than
> good. But perhaps you could add a view HTML meta-tags to the D webpages,
to
> help search machines find it.
>
> Something like
> <meta name="keywords" content="D,programming,language,C,C++,Java,system
> programming">

I was under the impression that search engines ignore meta tags, due to their abuse by too many webmasters.


August 18, 2003
> "Bright" sucks. It sounds even more pretentious than "D".

Pretentious ?  How so, I like the name bright.  Demios is also the greek god of dread.


"Rich C" <no@spam.com> wrote in message news:bhoo2v$o5v$1@digitaldaemon.com...
>
> "Sean L. Palmer" <palmer.sean@verizon.net> wrote in message news:bhondi$nbe$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> > What's wrong with Deimos?  Starts with the letter "D", it's a bright
solar
> > object, it ties in to DigitalMars.
> >
> > Someone else suggested calling it "Bright".  That's a good name.
> >
> > Sean
> >
> "Bright" sucks. It sounds even more pretentious than "D". Besides, Time Warner Cable just changed their name to "Bright House." And I'm sure you don't want to be associated with them.
>
> Go with your first impulse, I always say. Deimos is the better of your suggestions.
>
> Rich C.
>
>


August 18, 2003
People laugh at anything. Anyone think C++ is not risible, if you actually think about it?

In any case, this debate is fruitless. The name is out there, in the communities, and in the development press (I know, because D's been featured in several articles of mine that are coming out shortly), and to change it now will merely confuse and dissuade people.

And finally, Walter's chosen it, and (i) we'll not persuade him to change,
and (ii) it's his baby. Maybe it'll grow up to be "owned" by us all (the
larger dev community, I mean), but he can call it what he wants, and we
should respect that.

"Ben Hinkle" <bhinkle4@juno.com> wrote in message news:bhnvup$2pk8$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> I hate to say it but I agree. For me the problem is that whenever I
mention
> it at work people start laughing and assume the language isn't "serious".
I
> have no suggestions, though.
>
> -Ben
>
> ps. and is it just me or does "phobos" remind people of that great Infocom game Leather Goddesses of Phobos? - not that it's a bad thing to be
reminded
> of that game ;-)
>
>
> "Andrew Marlow" <apm35@student.open.ac.uk> wrote in message news:bhnpu9$2hj2$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> > Pardon me, a relative newcomer to this forum, for saying such a thing
> BUT.. I
> > think a better language name is needed. D has already been taken
countless
> > times, and is very hard to find using most internet search engines. I am
> sorry I
> > have no better alternative suggestions at present but maybe people will
at
> least
> > agree that it is an issue?
> >
> > It goes without saying that the replacement should be such that web
> searches
> > will find the language and not whatever else the name might mean. Also
it
> would
> > be good to avoid cute names, in-jokes, blantant allusions to DigitalMars
> etc
> > etc. I think allusions to Walter Bright would probably be acceptable.
> After all
> > he did invent it :-)
> >
> > -Andrew Marlow
> >
> >
>
>


August 18, 2003
> I don't think it needs changing.  I think D is fitting, though some people seem to have thought the name a presumptious move.

That's a good thing, no? Shake up a few old farts!


August 18, 2003
I think Phobos, Diemos, Bright, and even Walter, should be reserved for things supporting D

Phobos - the rtl
Deimos - another library, maybe the DTL? (I was thinking DREAD would be good
for the DTL, but I've yet to think of the meanings of the READ part ... )
Bright - the DIDDE
Walter - the next generation compiler. It'd mean the Compiler Walter would
live on, when our compiler-walter has jogged off this mortal coil. Arf Arf




"Rich C" <no@spam.com> wrote in message news:bhoo2v$o5v$1@digitaldaemon.com...
>
> "Sean L. Palmer" <palmer.sean@verizon.net> wrote in message news:bhondi$nbe$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> > What's wrong with Deimos?  Starts with the letter "D", it's a bright
solar
> > object, it ties in to DigitalMars.
> >
> > Someone else suggested calling it "Bright".  That's a good name.
> >
> > Sean
> >
> "Bright" sucks. It sounds even more pretentious than "D". Besides, Time Warner Cable just changed their name to "Bright House." And I'm sure you don't want to be associated with them.
>
> Go with your first impulse, I always say. Deimos is the better of your suggestions.
>
> Rich C.
>
>


August 18, 2003
"Matthew Wilson" <matthew@stlsoft.org> wrote in message news:bhp6im$1fgp$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> People laugh at anything. Anyone think C++ is not risible, if you actually think about it?
>
> In any case, this debate is fruitless. The name is out there, in the communities, and in the development press (I know, because D's been
featured
> in several articles of mine that are coming out shortly), and to change it now will merely confuse and dissuade people.
>
> And finally, Walter's chosen it, and (i) we'll not persuade him to change,
> and (ii) it's his baby. Maybe it'll grow up to be "owned" by us all (the
> larger dev community, I mean), but he can call it what he wants, and we
> should respect that.

I look forward to when D is grown up, standardized, and pretty much belonging to all programmers like C and C++ are.


August 18, 2003
"Matthew Wilson" <matthew@stlsoft.org> wrote in message news:bhp6in$1fgp$2@digitaldaemon.com...
> > I don't think it needs changing.  I think D is fitting, though some people seem to have thought the name a presumptious move.
>
> That's a good thing, no? Shake up a few old farts!

One nice thing is it gets peoples' attention in a way that another name would not.


August 18, 2003
"Charles Sanders" <sanders-consulting@comcast.net> wrote in message news:bhp63h$1es5$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> > "Bright" sucks. It sounds even more pretentious than "D".
>
> Pretentious ?  How so, I like the name bright.  Demios is also the greek
god
> of dread.

I thought for a minute you'd written the "geek" god!