Pardon me, a relative newcomer to this forum, for saying such a thing BUT.. I think a better language name is needed. D has already been taken countless times, and is very hard to find using most internet search engines. I am sorry I have no better alternative suggestions at present but maybe people will at least agree that it is an issue?

It goes without saying that the replacement should be such that web searches will find the language and not whatever else the name might mean. Also it would be good to avoid cute names, in-jokes, blantant allusions to DigitalMars etc etc. I think allusions to Walter Bright would probably be acceptable. After all he did invent it :-)

-Andrew Marlow

I hate to say it but I agree. For me the problem is that whenever I mention it at work people start laughing and assume the language isn't "serious". I have no suggestions, though.

-Ben

ps. and is it just me or does "phobos" remind people of that great Infocom game Leather Goddesses of Phobos? - not that it's a bad thing to be reminded of that game ;-)


"Andrew Marlow" <apm35@student.open.ac.uk> wrote in message news:bhnpu9$2hj2$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> Pardon me, a relative newcomer to this forum, for saying such a thing
BUT.. I
> think a better language name is needed. D has already been taken countless times, and is very hard to find using most internet search engines. I am
sorry I
> have no better alternative suggestions at present but maybe people will at
least
> agree that it is an issue?
>
> It goes without saying that the replacement should be such that web
searches
> will find the language and not whatever else the name might mean. Also it
would
> be good to avoid cute names, in-jokes, blantant allusions to DigitalMars
etc
> etc. I think allusions to Walter Bright would probably be acceptable.
After all
> he did invent it :-)
>
> -Andrew Marlow
>
>

Andrew Marlow wrote:
> Pardon me, a relative newcomer to this forum, for saying such a thing BUT.. I
> think a better language name is needed. D has already been taken countless
> times, and is very hard to find using most internet search engines. I am sorry I
> have no better alternative suggestions at present but maybe people will at least
> agree that it is an issue?

I don't think it needs changing.  I think D is fitting, though some people seem to have thought the name a presumptious move.  Maybe it has been taken countless times, but this time will be the only time that will make it work! (I hope)

Didn't slashdot people belabor this issue too?

Later,

John

In article <bhnpu9$2hj2$1@digitaldaemon.com>, Andrew Marlow says...
>
>Pardon me, a relative newcomer to this forum, for saying such a thing BUT.. I think a better language name is needed. D has already been taken countless times, and is very hard to find using most internet search engines. I am sorry I have no better alternative suggestions at present but maybe people will at least agree that it is an issue?

Yes, I feel it is an issue. For now I generally call it "Digital Mars D" to people unfamiliar with the language, but of course one day this won't be just Digital Mars' language...what to do?

- Kef

In article <bhnvup$2pk8$1@digitaldaemon.com>, Ben Hinkle says...
>ps. and is it just me or does "phobos" remind people of that great Infocom game Leather Goddesses of Phobos? - not that it's a bad thing to be reminded of that game ;-)

STEVE MERETZKY YEEEAAAHHH!!! ...sorry. Yeah, I'm a Meretzky (designer of Leather Goddesses of Phobos and co-designer of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy) fan, though admittedly I can't stand playing Infocom games for an extended period. I end up just using the hint files. :) See, I was ~born~ in the 80s, so I've been spoiled by all these fancy 2D graphics games. Now 2D games seem to be deprecated...I don't understand! That's like saying an animated movie is stupid because it's not 3D.

- Kef

In article <bhoao1$6h4$1@digitaldaemon.com>, Kef Li says...
>
>In article <bhnpu9$2hj2$1@digitaldaemon.com>, Andrew Marlow says...
>>
>>Pardon me, a relative newcomer to this forum, for saying such a thing BUT.. I think a better language name is needed. D has already been taken countless times, and is very hard to find using most internet search engines. I am sorry I have no better alternative suggestions at present but maybe people will at least agree that it is an issue?
>
>Yes, I feel it is an issue. For now I generally call it "Digital Mars D" to people unfamiliar with the language, but of course one day this won't be just Digital Mars' language...what to do?
>
>- Kef
>
>


Personally, I like "D", it implies true successorship to the C/C++ throne. I mean, its short, sweet, to the point. Sure, its kind of pretentious, but maybe thats what I like the most about it, and even if others have taken the name, this is better, so it wins :). If I had to pick something else, I would call it something even gutsier, like "Awesome" or "Bad-Ass." I mean, who wouldn't want to tell their boss that they used "Bad-Ass" to code the latest project in?

;)

-Jon

> snip
> I hate to say it but I agree. For me the problem is that whenever I mention
> it at work people start laughing and assume the language isn't "serious". I
> have no suggestions, though.
> >
> > -Andrew Marlow
> >
> >

If it was called D++ could they laugh then?

-Hanford

Does C++ == D--?

"Jonathan Andrew" <jon@ece.arizona.edu> wrote in message news:bhoboj$7se$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> Personally, I like "D", it implies true successorship to the C/C++ throne.
I
> mean, its short, sweet, to the point. Sure, its kind of pretentious, but
maybe
> thats what I like the most about it, and even if others have taken the
name,
> this is better, so it wins :).

The idea that the language "D" is the successor to C goes at least back to 1987. There were long threads on comp.lang.c about "D" back then, I even participated in them. Although one cannot trademark a letter (Zilog tried once long ago!), D being what it is has a claim going way back. I've certainly been thinking about D that long.

I understand the problem with googling on the letter D. I usually will google for "D Programming". The full name of D is the "D Programming Language".

> If I had to pick something else, I would call it
> something even gutsier, like "Awesome" or "Bad-Ass." I mean, who wouldn't
want
> to tell their boss that they used "Bad-Ass" to code the latest project in?
>
> ;)

I tried calling D the "mars" language initially, but everyone kept calling it D. There's just no point in trying to swim up Niagra Falls <g>, so D it is. As you said, it's short, sweet, and to the point.

In article <bhnvup$2pk8$1@digitaldaemon.com>, Ben Hinkle wrote:
> I hate to say it but I agree. For me the problem is that whenever I mention it at work people start laughing and assume the language isn't "serious". I have no suggestions, though.
> 

I guess they also laughed when the "C" language was designed to be the predecessor of "B"...

And consider "Linux", now that's one bad joke for a name!

Seriously, I'd suppose that the popularity of a language will depend more on the amount of programs written in it that on the amount of hours the marketing department has spent trying to figure out a selling name for it.

-Antti

What's wrong with Deimos?  Starts with the letter "D", it's a bright solar object, it ties in to DigitalMars.

Someone else suggested calling it "Bright".  That's a good name.

Sean

"Andrew Marlow" <apm35@student.open.ac.uk> wrote in message news:bhnpu9$2hj2$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> Pardon me, a relative newcomer to this forum, for saying such a thing
BUT.. I
> think a better language name is needed. D has already been taken countless times, and is very hard to find using most internet search engines. I am
sorry I
> have no better alternative suggestions at present but maybe people will at
least
> agree that it is an issue?
>
> It goes without saying that the replacement should be such that web
searches
> will find the language and not whatever else the name might mean. Also it
would
> be good to avoid cute names, in-jokes, blantant allusions to DigitalMars
etc
> etc. I think allusions to Walter Bright would probably be acceptable.
After all
> he did invent it :-)
>
> -Andrew Marlow