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[dlang.org] new forum design
Jan 18, 2016
Vladimir Panteleev
Jan 18, 2016
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January 18, 2016
As the new design rolled out on dlang.org, I decided to push the changes on forum.dlang.org as well. From what I gathered from the previous feedback thread, I believe we've addressed the most stringent issues. Once again thanks to anonymous / @aG0aep6G for doing practically all the work, and to everyone who's provided feedback so far.

Changes since the previous preview thread:

- The left navigation side panel is now narrower
- "Toggle navigation" now hides the side panel, too
- Removed margins in narrow view modes
- Added an expandable thread overview and pager to the first page of threads in basic view mode
- Made the quoted text darker (#999 -> #777)
- Added Lucida Console and Menlo to font list for post content
- Disabled text-size-adjust (font size inflation on mobile browsers)
- Removed font size changing depending on window width
- Tweaked forum and group index background colors
- Various fixes, including:
  - "Current thread" and other labels not fitting in the search dropdown
  - Height calculations for the split view modes
  - Restrict breadcrumbs to one line

Let's keep going with good feedback and incremental improvements. Some of you have provided general forum.dlang.org feedback, and while that's always welcome, we'd like to concentrate on the changes brought by the new design right now.

Some remaining possible issues:

1. Font

A few people mentioned that they found the new font (Roboto Slab) difficult to read. Some questions:

a) The same font is also used for nearly everything on dlang.org. Does your complaint also apply to the main website (i.e. should we consider changing the font on dlang.org)?

b) This font is not used for actual content (a different font is used for the post body). Perhaps we can just change the font for a few areas of the site, and e.g. leave it for navigation to match the dlang.org style.

2. Page width, especially in horizontal-split mode

As mentioned above, the navigation has been made narrower and the content wider, and the horizontal-split view mode can fit 73 characters at its widest. Hopefully this should be sufficient. If not I posted some ideas here: https://github.com/CyberShadow/DFeed/pull/51#issuecomment-172468784

As I posted in the previous thread, it would be:

- GOOD if you are as specific as possible in what can be improved
- GREAT if you can provide detailed suggestions in how things can be improved
- AMAZING if you can provide a mock-up (screenshot or web page) of how things could be improved
- INCREDIBLE if you can provide a pull request with your improvements :)

January 18, 2016
On Monday, 18 January 2016 at 10:20:13 UTC, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:
> As the new design rolled out on dlang.org, I decided to push the changes on forum.dlang.org as well. From what I gathered from the previous feedback thread, I believe we've addressed the most stringent issues. Once again thanks to anonymous / @aG0aep6G for doing practically all the work, and to everyone who's provided feedback so far.
>

Looks great.

One thing: layout of posts change when selecting them.

Second thing: yup the font is not super duper easy to read. I think the major issue is that is is quite compact in the horizontal direction. Previous font was more readable. For the same reason, it makes some link not very easy to click.
January 18, 2016
On Monday, 18 January 2016 at 14:22:16 UTC, deadalnix wrote:
> Looks great.
>
> One thing: layout of posts change when selecting them.

I'm not sure what you're referring to. Screenshots, please? Is it the link hotkeys? Is this a new problem?

> Second thing: yup the font is not super duper easy to read. I think the major issue is that is is quite compact in the horizontal direction. Previous font was more readable. For the same reason, it makes some link not very easy to click.

Previous font for what? You mean Roboto Sans, or (as I see you're posting from a Mac) Menlo?
January 18, 2016
Oh crap, I had a shock when opening forum web page today. This is what you get for stopping to read NG I guess :X

It feels much harder to read on my machine but it may be simply old habit talking. I'll try to identifying what feels strange and report in more constructive fashion later.
January 18, 2016
On Monday, 18 January 2016 at 10:20:13 UTC, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:
> ...

The font looks particularly bad on the bolded thread titles in the forums. I think really any where I see bolded text it just looks bad, looks like its bleeding. Otherwise I dont mind the font.

The main page looks a little jumbled, maybe section off the widgets into a bar on the side. Maybe section off the "Why D?" like you did with the gray section that has the the "your code here" box.

Also it is really very bright, maybe provide a dark theme. Also I feel like the red header at the top is just 1 shade too bright, but maybe thats just me, I tend to like more muted tones.


January 18, 2016
On Monday, 18 January 2016 at 10:20:13 UTC, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:
> As the new design rolled out on dlang.org, I decided to push the changes on forum.dlang.org as well.

I can't tell what threads I've read anymore on on the default web forum style view. I'm not sure if this is link:visited or something you tracked, but regardless, I actually kinda depend on those purple links when doing TWID to help me get everything.
January 18, 2016
On Monday, 18 January 2016 at 14:34:21 UTC, Dicebot wrote:
> Oh crap, I had a shock when opening forum web page today. This is what you get for stopping to read NG I guess :X
>
> It feels much harder to read on my machine but it may be simply old habit talking. I'll try to identifying what feels strange and report in more constructive fashion later.

FYI, this is how it looks here : http://files.mstr.lv/new_forum.png
I suspect it is the font which feels so different and wrong compared to previous one.
January 18, 2016
On Monday, 18 January 2016 at 14:40:58 UTC, Dicebot wrote:
> http://files.mstr.lv/new_forum.png

Oh dear lord that looks bad, im on windows chrome and it does not look nearly that bad. That looks like the whole post was bolded.
January 18, 2016
On Monday, 18 January 2016 at 14:40:58 UTC, Dicebot wrote:
> On Monday, 18 January 2016 at 14:34:21 UTC, Dicebot wrote:
>> Oh crap, I had a shock when opening forum web page today. This is what you get for stopping to read NG I guess :X
>>
>> It feels much harder to read on my machine but it may be simply old habit talking. I'll try to identifying what feels strange and report in more constructive fashion later.
>
> FYI, this is how it looks here : http://files.mstr.lv/new_forum.png
> I suspect it is the font which feels so different and wrong compared to previous one.

Which font - Roboto Slab, or did you previously get a different font for post content?
January 18, 2016
On Monday, 18 January 2016 at 10:20:13 UTC, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:
> ... you can provide detailed suggestions in how things can be improved...

So far so good for me. The only thing that's bothering me a bit is the light gray color used on the "Quoted text", I think it should be a little more dark and beside that, you maybe could use a Italic on it.

JohnCK.



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