And by the way, one more thing, after posting a comment the site refresh 3x, I don't remember the text, but something like: (sending the text, waiting/processing, text sent), the entire process here takes like 3 ~ 5 seconds.

Why is that? can't we hide that information and save 2 refreshs?

JohnCK.

On Monday, 18 January 2016 at 14:46:43 UTC, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:
> On Monday, 18 January 2016 at 14:40:58 UTC, Dicebot wrote:
>> On Monday, 18 January 2016 at 14:34:21 UTC, Dicebot wrote:
>>> Oh crap, I had a shock when opening forum web page today. This is what you get for stopping to read NG I guess :X
>>>
>>> It feels much harder to read on my machine but it may be simply old habit talking. I'll try to identifying what feels strange and report in more constructive fashion later.
>>
>> FYI, this is how it looks here : http://files.mstr.lv/new_forum.png
>> I suspect it is the font which feels so different and wrong compared to previous one.
>
> Which font - Roboto Slab, or did you previously get a different font for post content?

I see the problem. It uses system monospace font but it gets set to fixed 15px size which is why it looks weird/bold - I never use this specific font with more than 10px size text. Full font stack from css looks like this - "Consolas,Lucida Console,Menlo,monospace" but all former ones are not present on my system.

No idea what font was used before but it was much more in style with what I have :) Is there a backup copy of old forum.dlang.org so that I can grab some CSS from it to experiment?

On Monday, 18 January 2016 at 14:46:43 UTC, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:
> Which font - Roboto Slab, or did you previously get a different font for post content?

dlang.org uses Roboto Slab on my machine and it looks better : http://files.mstr.lv/new_dlang.png

On Monday, 18 January 2016 at 14:34:23 UTC, Tofu Ninja wrote:
> On Monday, 18 January 2016 at 10:20:13 UTC, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:
>> ...
>
> The font looks particularly bad on the bolded thread titles in the forums. I think really any where I see bolded text it just looks bad, looks like its bleeding. Otherwise I dont mind the font.

OK, I figured this one out. We weren't loading Roboto Slab Bold, so the browsers were making up what they thought bold could look like from the regular weight.

https://github.com/CyberShadow/d-programming-language.org/commit/14dba780f5562bfe2affeb8c01a6655d0a705467

How does it look now?

On Monday, 18 January 2016 at 14:56:01 UTC, Dicebot wrote:
> I see the problem. It uses system monospace font but it gets set to fixed 15px size which is why it looks weird/bold - I never use this specific font with more than 10px size text. Full font stack from css looks like this - "Consolas,Lucida Console,Menlo,monospace" but all former ones are not present on my system.
>
> No idea what font was used before but it was much more in style with what I have :) Is there a backup copy of old forum.dlang.org so that I can grab some CSS from it to experiment?

That's pretty weird. This is what it was set to before:

https://github.com/CyberShadow/DFeed/blob/5774b110df30b2abc599387d7e0ff87fa8331650/web/static/css/dfeed.css#L523

We could add Bitstream Vera Sans Mono to the font list. Does that font look better for you?

On Monday, 18 January 2016 at 14:58:52 UTC, Dicebot wrote:
> On Monday, 18 January 2016 at 14:46:43 UTC, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:
>> Which font - Roboto Slab, or did you previously get a different font for post content?
>
> dlang.org uses Roboto Slab on my machine and it looks better : http://files.mstr.lv/new_dlang.png

I'm really confused. In the other post you were clearly referring to the monospace fonts used for post contents. Here you mention Roboto Slab, but it isn't a monospace font, and now I'm not sure what you're referring to. Could you please elaborate in greater detail?

On Monday, 18 January 2016 at 14:50:03 UTC, JohnCK wrote:
> On Monday, 18 January 2016 at 10:20:13 UTC, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:
>> ... you can provide detailed suggestions in how things can be improved...
>
> So far so good for me. The only thing that's bothering me a bit is the light gray color used on the "Quoted text", I think it should be a little more dark and beside that, you maybe could use a Italic on it.

We've actually made it 22% darker since the original color already. Currently it is the same color as e.g. the color used for quoted text on GitHub.

I'm not sure about italics - monospace fonts and italics don't mix well, and I haven't seen italics used for quoting forum posts in many places on the web.

On Monday, 18 January 2016 at 14:54:55 UTC, JohnCK wrote:
> And by the way, one more thing, after posting a comment the site refresh 3x, I don't remember the text, but something like: (sending the text, waiting/processing, text sent), the entire process here takes like 3 ~ 5 seconds.
>
> Why is that? can't we hide that information and save 2 refreshs?
>
> JohnCK.

I'm not sure what you're suggesting. The posting process page actually shows the process of checking the post for spam against multiple spam-checking services, sending it off to the NNTP server, and waiting for the message to be received back (which indicates that it has been saved and is available for everyone to read). All this does take a few seconds.

On Monday, 18 January 2016 at 14:40:21 UTC, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
> On Monday, 18 January 2016 at 10:20:13 UTC, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:
>> As the new design rolled out on dlang.org, I decided to push the changes on forum.dlang.org as well.
>
> I can't tell what threads I've read anymore on on the default web forum style view. I'm not sure if this is link:visited or something you tracked, but regardless, I actually kinda depend on those purple links when doing TWID to help me get everything.

Hi Adam,

The forum remembers which posts you've read and marks those you haven't in bold.

Do you browse the forum without an account and without cookies?

On Monday, 18 January 2016 at 15:03:18 UTC, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:
> OK, I figured this one out. We weren't loading Roboto Slab Bold, so the browsers were making up what they thought bold could look like from the regular weight.
>
> https://github.com/CyberShadow/d-programming-language.org/commit/14dba780f5562bfe2affeb8c01a6655d0a705467
>
> How does it look now?

Comparisons:

http://dump.thecybershadow.net/0f43d7cc0378e4ae706a6715fa7f7457/Screen%20Shot%202016-01-18%20at%2014.57.15.png
http://dump.thecybershadow.net/5731263223ddc5724dad7b0baa881e8c/Screen%20Shot%202016-01-18%20at%2014.57.16.png