January 22, 2005 Re: The best environment for D | ||||
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Posted in reply to nail | nail wrote:
> Hi all.
>
> You can treat this topic as a poll. I think this can help begginers to choose
> convenient tools to use D and advanced programmers to try something new and
> compare with already used tools. So, the question is: what tools and
> applications do you use for D programming:
> 1) Platform
> 2) Editor
> 3) Build system
> 4) Debugger
> 5) Profiler
> 6) Others
1) Win32 and Gentoo Linux
2) gVim (yes, also in Windows)
3) A-A-P (although it is buggy on Linux, will hopefully be fixed soon by me). If a D based alternative that I like pops up, I might change.
4) Only tried WinDbg yet
5) None yet
6) svn (cvs)
Lars Ivar Igesund
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January 22, 2005 Re: The best environment for D | ||||
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Posted in reply to Anders Runesson | > Emacs for now, until I find something better. Something better ?!?!?! :P Have you tried http://cedet.sourceforge.net/ ? Some really cool tools there. Charlie "Anders Runesson" <anders@runesson.info> wrote in message news:csubcb$18ec$1@digitaldaemon.com... > nail wrote: > > > 1) Platform > Gentoo Linux > > > 2) Editor > Emacs for now, until I find something better. Would really like to get D working with KDevelop.. Have tried leds, but it's too buggy to be usable for now. > > > 3) Build system > Make > > > 4) Debugger > printf and gdb > > > 5) Profiler > none > > > 6) Others > Compiler: GDC > > /Anders Rson |
January 22, 2005 Re: The best environment for D | ||||
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Posted in reply to Charles | Charles wrote: >>Emacs for now, until I find something better. > > Something better ?!?!?! :P Yes - and so far, I haven't found anything. I would like to find a good editor/ide that I can configure just the way I like it without having to learn lisp first. Emacs does work almost the way I like it to, but not quite and I'm too lazy to read enough to be able to fix things myself. > > Have you tried http://cedet.sourceforge.net/ ? Some really cool tools > there. > > Charlie Yeah, I've seen it but I just haven't gotten around to setting stuff up. A lot of docs to read... ;) /Anders Rson |
January 22, 2005 Re: The best environment for D | ||||
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Posted in reply to Anders Runesson | In article <csuind$1hi4$1@digitaldaemon.com>, Anders Runesson says... > >Charles wrote: >>>Emacs for now, until I find something better. >> >> Something better ?!?!?! :P > >Yes - and so far, I haven't found anything. > >I would like to find a good editor/ide that I can configure just the way >I like it without having to learn lisp first. >Emacs does work almost the way I like it to, but not quite and I'm too >lazy to read enough to be able to fix things myself. One of my co-workers wrote JDE (Java Development Environment or something) for emacs and that's pretty popular. It shouldn't be too hard to modify it for D (famous last words...) I don't know much elisp either but I'll ping him to get his 2 cents. |
January 22, 2005 Re: The best environment for D | ||||
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Posted in reply to nail | nail wrote:
> 1) Platform
> 2) Editor
> 3) Build system
> 4) Debugger
> 5) Profiler
> 6) Others
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1) WinXP and FC2, but mainly Windows
2) SciTe on Windows, gedit and vim on linux
3) basically, none. make, just sometimes
4) none
5) "dmd -gt" on Windows only (because it doesn't work on linux)
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January 23, 2005 Re: The best environment for D | ||||
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Posted in reply to John Reimer | > It would be wonderful if a Java expert took the challenge. I'm sure > someone with enough background could make a CDT -> DDT conversion work. Even better would be if a dmake tool were integrated into the D eclipse > system. The automated build process would make D development alarmingly > fun. :-) > > - John R. I'm not completely sure if I would be considered an expert yet...but I'm pretty competent with Java, and I've been studying the eclipse platform. I think I'd like to help out with this as know it would help D a lot to have something equivalent to the Java tools that are in Eclipse for D. (who wouldn't like to have errors show up as you type them rather than having to wait until you compile to get them all?) I actually have my sights set a bit higher than all that has been suggested so far, and I plan to unveil some of that within the next week or so, once I've got something to show for it. Let's just say I'm excited about what I've started on :) -- -PIB -- "C++ also supports the notion of *friends*: cooperative classes that are permitted to see each other's private parts." - Grady Booch |
January 23, 2005 Re: The best environment for D | ||||
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Posted in reply to Ben Hinkle | Ben Hinkle wrote:
> In article <csuind$1hi4$1@digitaldaemon.com>, Anders Runesson says...
>
>>Charles wrote:
>>
>>>>Emacs for now, until I find something better.
>>>
>>>Something better ?!?!?! :P
>>
>>Yes - and so far, I haven't found anything.
>>
>>I would like to find a good editor/ide that I can configure just the way I like it without having to learn lisp first.
>>Emacs does work almost the way I like it to, but not quite and I'm too lazy to read enough to be able to fix things myself.
>
>
> One of my co-workers wrote JDE (Java Development Environment or something) for
> emacs and that's pretty popular. It shouldn't be too hard to modify it for D
> (famous last words...) I don't know much elisp either but I'll ping him to get
> his 2 cents.
>
>
I took a peek at jde, and I must say it looks pretty cool. Maybe it's time to bite the bullet and get aquainted with elisp after all.. Having "D Development Environment" for emacs would be just wonderful.
I'd just better remember to bring a map and compass into the Jungle of Endless Parentheses... ;)
/Anders Rson
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January 23, 2005 Re: The best environment for D | ||||
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Posted in reply to Anders Runesson | Anders Runesson wrote: > I took a peek at jde, and I must say it looks pretty cool. Maybe it's > time to bite the bullet and get aquainted with elisp after all.. Having "D Development Environment" for emacs would be just wonderful. I just started using emacs for my D programming. If you modify JDE to DDE, and release it, I will praise you forever. > > I'd just better remember to bring a map and compass into the Jungle of Endless Parentheses... ;) > > /Anders Rson > > |
January 23, 2005 Re: The best environment for D | ||||
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Posted in reply to nail | "nail" <nail_member@pathlink.com> wrote in message news:cstfa2$t0$1@digitaldaemon.com... > Hi all. > > You can treat this topic as a poll. I think this can help begginers to choose > convenient tools to use D and advanced programmers to try something new and > compare with already used tools. So, the question is: what tools and > applications do you use for D programming: > 1) Platform > 2) Editor > 3) Build system > 4) Debugger > 5) Profiler > 6) Others 5) Use the built-in profiler! Just throw the -gt switch, and recompile. Run the app as usual, and at the end, look at the output in trace.log. |
January 23, 2005 Re: The best environment for D | ||||
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Posted in reply to Paul Bonser | On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 16:11:39 -0800, Paul Bonser wrote:
>> It would be wonderful if a Java expert took the challenge. I'm sure someone with enough background could make a CDT -> DDT conversion work. Even better would be if a dmake tool were integrated into the D eclipse system. The automated build process would make D development alarmingly fun. :-)
>>
>> - John R.
>
> I'm not completely sure if I would be considered an expert yet...but I'm
> pretty competent with Java, and I've been studying the eclipse platform.
> I think I'd like to help out with this as know it would help D a lot to
> have something equivalent to the Java tools that are in Eclipse for D.
> (who wouldn't like to have errors show up as you type them rather than
> having to wait until you compile to get them all?)
> I actually have my sights set a bit higher than all that has been
> suggested so far, and I plan to unveil some of that within the next week
> or so, once I've got something to show for it.
> Let's just say I'm excited about what I've started on :)
>
> --
> -PIB
Well, I use the term "Java expert" loosely here to mean anybody with more knowledge than I on the subject (which should qualify plenty enough people :-) ). If you are "pretty competent" than you're probably a java guru :from my perspective.
It sounds like you've been busy! If so, I'm excited to see what you've got up your sleeve. No doubt, your submissions will be well received by the D community!
Good luck,
John R.
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