On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 15:37:07 +0000 (UTC), J C Calvarese wrote:


> Derek,
[snip]
> Let's not get into a bunch of second-guessing each other.

Sorry. I did come across a bit thick-like. No ill-will was intended.

I guess I'm a bit more client-focused because my company sells software for a living. I'm used to providing support for clients, which are usually large organizations, and they can be a bit demanding than the man-on-the-street.

-- 
Derek Parnell
Melbourne, Australia
18/08/2005 7:25:56 AM

Mike Parker wrote:
> Derelict now includes three packages to encompass the DevIL libraries: DerelictIL, DerelictILU, and DerelictILUT. The original hard work was done by Tomasz Stachowiak (h3r3tic over at dsource). I just reorganized things a bit and added the docs and such. (NOTE: As of yet, only the Windows build scripts have been tested - nothing has been tested on Linux yet, though the Makefiles are there and ready to go).
> 
> For those who are not aware of Derelict, the following packages are also part of the project:
> 
> DerelictAL - OpenAL
> DerelictGL - OpenGL
> DerelictGLU - GL Utility library
> DerelictGLFW - GL FrameWork
> DerelictSDL - Simple Direct Media Layer
> DerelictSDLImage - SDL_image
> DerelictSDLMixer - SDL_mixer
> DerelictSDLNet - SDL_net
> DerelictSDLTTF - SDL_ttf
> 
> Each package currently works on both Windows and Linux. You can always pick up the latest version of the Derelict package by pointing your favorite SVN client to http://svn.dsource.org/projects/derelict/trunk/
> 
> For more information or help regarding the Derelict packages, visit the Derelict forums at http://www.dsource.org/forums/viewforum.php?f=19

Lua next? :)

clayasaurus wrote:

> 
> Lua next? :)

Quite likely.

Mike Parker wrote:
> ElfQT wrote:
>> Great work.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
>>...
> 
> I have nothing to market. This is something I maintain in my free time and make available to other members of the D community. I'll probably put some downloads up in the future, but for now it's too much of a hassle for me to deal with. Besides, the forum (which is linked to from the project page) has a nice explanation of how to get the files from SVN, and dsource has information on how to obtain and use an SVN client.
> 
> Ultimately, as Derelict grows and DMD hits a 1.0 release, I'll take more time to maintain the project and give it a dedicated website with all of the prerequisites. For now, I just can't be bothered. I've got more important things on my plate to deal with. I update when I can or when the urge takes me. If you intend to use any DSource projects, get used to SVN!

Acknowledged.  But it would be nice if projects would include a couple of lines:
1) I last tested this build with dmd version n.nnn
2) The svn tree was last updated on dddd/dd/dd

N.B.:  This isn't directed at any particular project, but rather at ALL projects.

Charles Hixson wrote:
> Acknowledged.  But it would be nice if projects would include a couple of lines:
> 1) I last tested this build with dmd version n.nnn

I don't know how the other projects are handled, but with every new DMD release I test Derelict (usually within 24 hours of Walter's announcemebnt). I fix any showstoppers immediately. Although I don't add new things often, it is a goal that the trunk is always compilable with the latest DMD.

> 2) The svn tree was last updated on dddd/dd/dd

A few projects do this, Derelict included, via sticky threads in the forums.

In article <dg08a4$1nmc$1@digitaldaemon.com>, Charles Hixson says...
>
>Mike Parker wrote:
>> ElfQT wrote:
>>> Great work.
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>>>...
>> 
>> I have nothing to market. This is something I maintain in my free time and make available to other members of the D community. I'll probably put some downloads up in the future, but for now it's too much of a hassle for me to deal with. Besides, the forum (which is linked to from the project page) has a nice explanation of how to get the files from SVN, and dsource has information on how to obtain and use an SVN client.
>> 
>> Ultimately, as Derelict grows and DMD hits a 1.0 release, I'll take more time to maintain the project and give it a dedicated website with all of the prerequisites. For now, I just can't be bothered. I've got more important things on my plate to deal with. I update when I can or when the urge takes me. If you intend to use any DSource projects, get used to SVN!
>
>Acknowledged.  But it would be nice if projects would include a
>couple of lines:
>1) I last tested this build with dmd version n.nnn
>2) The svn tree was last updated on dddd/dd/dd
>
>N.B.:  This isn't directed at any particular project, but rather at ALL projects.