January 22, 2015
On Wednesday, 21 January 2015 at 23:25:04 UTC, Mike wrote:
> On Wednesday, 21 January 2015 at 19:51:57 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
>
>> The Dart one is probably most similar to this proposal. But there definitely is a trend among these sites - a menu across the top, lots of white space, lots of scrolling. I can't say I'm a fan, but it's undeniable what people consider modern. (I like the older style, as it is denser and easier to navigate.)
>
> You forgot Nim:
> http://nim-lang.org
>
> And I personally like Nim's website best.
>
> I have to agree with Walter, and prefer the denser design.
>
> This proposal is attractive, though, but the new website trends are too sparse.  I realize this is the modern trend, but that trend seems to treat eveything like a 5" smartphone.
>
> Mike

Nim site is not responsive and looks stupid on a mobile device.
January 22, 2015
On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 04:11:38PM -0800, Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d wrote:
> On 1/21/2015 3:25 PM, Mike wrote:
[...]
> >This proposal is attractive, though, but the new website trends are too sparse.  I realize this is the modern trend, but that trend seems to treat eveything like a 5" smartphone.
> 
> I don't think that's surprising, but a big desktop display and a smartphone are different enough they need a different mindset.

This makes me think that we need a fluid layout that can handle any aspect ratio you may throw at it. Unfortunately, I don't think CSS is currently able to do that just yet.


> I'm not going to start editing code on a smartphone in the foreseeable future.  I need a BFG 9000 display.

Complete with splash damage and tracer rays? :-P


T

-- 
WINDOWS = Will Install Needless Data On Whole System -- CompuMan
January 22, 2015
On Wednesday, 21 January 2015 at 23:32:29 UTC, anonymous wrote:
>
> Here's a mock-up with a wide version of the logo I've been toying around with:
>
> http://i.imgur.com/nesKYdQ.png
>
> SVG logo: https://mediacru.sh/8eaa7f9c3421

That looks great.
January 22, 2015
On 1/21/15 3:53 PM, Tobias Pankrath wrote:
> On Wednesday, 21 January 2015 at 20:41:09 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
>> On 1/21/15 11:55 AM, H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d wrote:
>>> This giant red band is present on
>>> every page, effectively reducing the height of the browser window by 20%
>>> for no good reason.
>>
>> I'm also a fan of vertical navigation menus because today's screens
>> have a wide aspect ratio making vertical real estate precious and
>> horizontal real estate cheap. -- Andrei
>
> Onyl true if you have only one window open. I'm using a tiling WM and
> usually have to windows side by side. Suddenly it's the opposite.

The usual widescreen: 16:9, so 1.78x. If you divide the width by two: 8:9, i.e. 0.89x. To make it "the opposite" you'd need 5:9, i.e. use about three windows side by side. -- Andrei
January 22, 2015
On Wednesday, 21 January 2015 at 19:51:57 UTC, Walter Bright
wrote:
> Swift: https://developer.apple.com/swift/
>
> Go: https://golang.org/
>
> Rust: http://www.rust-lang.org/
>
> C++: http://www.cplusplus.com/
>
> C#: doesn't seem to have one!
>
> Java: http://java.com/en/
>
> Haskell: https://www.haskell.org/
>
> Python: https://www.python.org/
>
> Php: http://php.net/
>
> Objective C: https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/documentation/Cocoa/Conceptual/ProgrammingWithObjectiveC/Introduction/Introduction.html
>
> Typescript: http://www.typescriptlang.org/
>
> Perl: https://www.perl.org/
>
> Ruby: https://www.ruby-lang.org/en/
>
> Fortran: http://www.fortran.com/
>
> Dart: https://www.dartlang.org/

Thanks for putting them next to each other.

I always joke there is only one designer left.
January 22, 2015
On Thursday, 22 January 2015 at 00:39:52 UTC, Brad Anderson wrote:
> On Wednesday, 21 January 2015 at 23:32:29 UTC, anonymous wrote:
>>
>> Here's a mock-up with a wide version of the logo I've been toying around with:
>>
>> http://i.imgur.com/nesKYdQ.png
>>
>> SVG logo: https://mediacru.sh/8eaa7f9c3421
>
> That looks great.

Yep. That better.
January 22, 2015
On Wednesday, 21 January 2015 at 17:52:56 UTC, Kiith-Sa wrote:
> Suggested improvement:
>
> http://imgur.com/a/zgSJa

Can't open link.
January 22, 2015
On Wednesday, 21 January 2015 at 20:46:40 UTC, MattCoder wrote:
> On Wednesday, 21 January 2015 at 19:51:57 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
>> On 1/21/2015 6:46 AM, Sebastiaan Koppe wrote:
>>> Just for fun and proof-of-concept I went ahead and forked the dlang.org site. I
>>> basically took the `do-what-everybody-else-is-doing` approach:
>>
>> Thank you very much for doing this! I very much appreciate the hard work you put into it.
>>
>> For comparison, here are some other language front doors:
>
> I always thought that D deserved something like this: http://learnyouahaskell.com/
>
> Matheus.

That one is awesome.
January 22, 2015
On Thursday, 22 January 2015 at 01:34:01 UTC, Sebastiaan Koppe wrote:
> On Wednesday, 21 January 2015 at 17:52:56 UTC, Kiith-Sa wrote:
>> Suggested improvement:
>>
>> http://imgur.com/a/zgSJa
>
> Can't open link.

Direct image links:

current: http://i.imgur.com/5IN3Nui.png
better:  http://i.imgur.com/CdgKxhM.png

(this will be even better for the cases where there are multiple text blocks besides a code block) - it both helps save horizontal space and slightly decreases the need for scrolling.
January 22, 2015
First of all I like the new design. Way better than what's here now. I'll just throw another site into the mix that I like which is Ocaml's site: https://ocaml.org/ .