Chris Miller wrote:
> On Sat, 06 May 2006 19:09:41 -0400, Walter Bright <newshound@digitalmars.com> wrote:
> 
>> xs0 wrote:
>>> Walter Bright wrote:
>>>> Lars Ivar Igesund wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Walter Bright wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> www.d.com is already taken :-(
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Not taken, reserved I think. Together with all other letters it seems.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It's a squatter with a "make offer".
>>>  how about d-lang.com/net/org ? Dotster says it's available...
>>
>> That's a leading contender.
> 
> I don't particularly like dashes in domains.

I have reservations about it, too. I also have reservations about abbreviations.

> I do like dlanguage.com - it's available.

Hmm <g>

nick wrote:
> Walter Bright wrote:
>> True, but even so, Helmut has taken the initiative on it, done a lot of
>> work on it, and deserves thanks and consideration regarding any changes.
> Yes, despite being published under the free doc license, I would feel
> much better about copying content if I had the authors' permissions.

Yes.

> I think Helmut feels very strongly about the wiki4d.
> Apparently, prowiki is quite popular in Germany. It doesn't seem to show
> up on wikipedia's wiki comparison chart though.
> 
> The following things matter in a wiki:
>  - wiki engine must stack up well here:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_wiki_software
> 
>  - wiki engine must produces modern html
> 
>  - wiki's URL has to show that it's part of the official D site (e.g.
> wiki.dprogramming.com or wiki.digitalmars.com)
> 
>  - wiki should look like the rest of the official D site.
> 
>  - desirable bonus: wiki should automatically highlight D code or
> provide plugins such that a code highlighter may be written.

I agree as well. But also, although I can host the wiki, I am not the right person to be maintaining it. Any wiki solution must come with someone committed to keeping it working. That's the most important consideration.

Unknown W. Brackets wrote:
> If only more designers followed those rules...
> 
> Sorry, just had to say it.  I deal with this sorta stuff at work.

Another rule I forgot to mention is that consideration must be paid to bandwidth - both for cost reasons, and because some people are still on dialup. The pages need to load fast, or people will go elsewhere.

Walter Bright wrote:
> Chris Miller wrote:
>> On Sat, 06 May 2006 19:09:41 -0400, Walter Bright <newshound@digitalmars.com> wrote:
>>
>>> xs0 wrote:
>>>> Walter Bright wrote:
>>>>> Lars Ivar Igesund wrote:

We could ask for donations. If everyone on the newsgroups throws in a couple of dollars, we can easily buy d.org and keep renewing it. I think that would be quite good.

Walter Bright wrote:
> nick wrote:
>> Walter Bright wrote:

> I agree as well. But also, although I can host the wiki, I am not the right person to be maintaining it. Any wiki solution must come with someone committed to keeping it working. That's the most important consideration.

Indeed, it has to be watched closely for vandalism and such. I believe the community of trusted D fans can help with that. Alternatively, the wiki can require that users have an account created for them by an existing administrator; that way we don't need to worry about vandalism.

"nick" <nick.atamas@gmail.com> wrote in message news:e3jc1v$1cm6$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> - desirable bonus: wiki should automatically highlight D code or provide plugins such that a code highlighter may be written.

PmWiki, which the DMedia site uses, does just that.  I'm not too knowledgeable with wikis, but it seems really well done.  Also, looking at the outputted HTML, it seems to use stylesheets and such, looks like modern HTML.

In article <e3jekl$1huo$1@digitaldaemon.com>, Walter Bright says...
>
>nick wrote:
[...]
>>  - wiki's URL has to show that it's part of the official D site (e.g.
>> wiki.dprogramming.com or wiki.digitalmars.com)
[...]
>
>I agree as well. But also, although I can host the wiki, I am not the right person to be maintaining it. Any wiki solution must come with someone committed to keeping it working. That's the most important consideration.

can't you set XYZ.digitalmars.com to point to whatever you want? Pointing some sub domains out to other servers would let other people manage parts of the website.

Just a thought (and I can already think of a few small hitches in that Idea).

In article <e3isr6$op1$1@digitaldaemon.com>, Walter Bright says...
>
>Justin C Calvarese wrote:
>> Walter Bright wrote:
>>> What's wrong with www.digitalmars.com/d/ as an official site?
>> 
>> I think nick is concerned about D seeming like a hobby of Digital Mars rathan than a significant language in its own right. I think it's a valid point.
>> 
>> It looks good when a language has an official (or official-looking) website. Such as these examples for some other languages:
>> 
>> http://www.java.com/
>> http://www.php.net/
>> http://www.python.org/
>> http://www.ruby-lang.org/
>> http://www.perl.org/ / http://www.perl.com
>
>www.d.com is already taken :-(

But neither www.d-lang.org or www.dlang.org are taken, both of which are viable options.

Jarrett Billingsley wrote:
> "nick" <nick.atamas@gmail.com> wrote in message news:e3jc1v$1cm6$1@digitaldaemon.com...
>> - desirable bonus: wiki should automatically highlight D code or provide plugins such that a code highlighter may be written.
> 
> PmWiki, which the DMedia site uses, does just that.  I'm not too knowledgeable with wikis, but it seems really well done.  Also, looking at the outputted HTML, it seems to use stylesheets and such, looks like modern HTML.

MoinMoin has come with high recommendations. There are already modules for highlighting Java code. Furthermore, D is easy to parse, so it should be quite easy to write a code highlighting module.

Another good thing about MoinMoin is that Python code is much more maintainable than PHP or Perl (MoinMoin uses Python).

Walter Bright wrote:
> 
> What's wrong with www.digitalmars.com/d/ as an official site?

Unless you want to do it all by yourself, then writing access must be given to many people.