This is not really a D problem but still. The new newsgroup web interface is useless (IMO of course). It is impossible to follow a thread (no thread view even). It looks better than the old one (colors and stuff) but whats point if it is unusable...

bobef wrote:
> This is not really a D problem but still. The new newsgroup web interface is useless (IMO of course). It is impossible to follow a thread (no thread view even). It looks better than the old one (colors and stuff) but whats point if it is unusable...

You use the web interface?  I keep forgetting it even exists :P  Is there any particular reason you can't use a proper NNTP client?

	-- Daniel

Daniel Keep wrote:
>You use the web interface?  I keep forgetting it even exists :P  Is there any particular reason you can't use a proper NNTP client?

For me it's the HTTP proxy of the firm I work for. :(

It's a nice interface for viewing posts, but not for following threads, I have to agree there. Though, I haven't seen any good (as in covering all the nasty stuff NNTP clients do cover) web interface, yet, anyways. :\

Maybe we should code one in D as soon as it gets available for web development. :P

bobef wrote:
> This is not really a D problem but still. The new newsgroup web interface is useless (IMO of course). It is impossible to follow a thread (no thread view even). It looks better than the old one (colors and stuff) but whats point if it is unusable...

Alexander Panek wrote:
> It's a nice interface for viewing posts, but not for following threads, I have to agree there. Though, I haven't seen any good (as in covering all the nasty stuff NNTP clients do cover) web interface, yet, anyways. :\

There are some decent ones written in PHP, but they do lack something in terms of interface.  Honestly, I'm flabbergasted that nobody out there has thought to write a cron-job that just reconciles NNTP activity against a web-forum database (like PHPBB).

> Maybe we should code one in D as soon as it gets available for web development. :P

Once I have the right tools in place, I wouldn't mind making a shot at it.  But that's going to be a long while.

Regardless, one thing that *is* needed is a solid NNTP handling package written in D. Any takers?

-- 
- EricAnderton at yahoo

Pragma wrote:
> Alexander Panek wrote:
> 
>> It's a nice interface for viewing posts, but not for following threads, I have to agree there. Though, I haven't seen any good (as in covering all the nasty stuff NNTP clients do cover) web interface, yet, anyways. :\
> 
> 
> There are some decent ones written in PHP, but they do lack something in terms of interface.  Honestly, I'm flabbergasted that nobody out there has thought to write a cron-job that just reconciles NNTP activity against a web-forum database (like PHPBB).
> 
>> Maybe we should code one in D as soon as it gets available for web development. :P
> 
> 
> Once I have the right tools in place, I wouldn't mind making a shot at it.  But that's going to be a long while.
> 
> Regardless, one thing that *is* needed is a solid NNTP handling package written in D. Any takers?
> 

I've got a start at one. It's far from complete but it can grab headers and bodies. I'll find the code and host it somewhere if anyone is interested.

It's part of a CGI system that builds web pages from NNTP but has less functionality than even the archives pages.

BCS wrote:
> It's part of a CGI system that builds web pages from NNTP but has less functionality than even the archives pages.

I'd be happy to donate the D program that builds the archive pages to anyone who wants to build a better interface. It's an ugly, hackish program, but it gets the job done.

bobef wrote:
> This is not really a D problem but still. The new newsgroup web interface is useless (IMO of course). It is impossible to follow a thread (no thread view even). It looks better than the old one (colors and stuff) but whats point if it is unusable...

I know it stinks. But it's the only one that is (1) free and (2) works on a 64 bit BSD unix box (what the server is on).

The old one we used on the 32 bit BSD box wasn't that good, either.

I can't believe it's that hard to write a decent one.

After a fast sf.net search:

http://web-news.sourceforge.net/
demo here:
https://intranet.cs.hku.hk/services/webnews/newsgroups.php

looks good and I believe PHP is supported on any OS


Walter Bright wrote:
> bobef wrote:
>> This is not really a D problem but still. The new newsgroup web interface is useless (IMO of course). It is impossible to follow a thread (no thread view even). It looks better than the old one (colors and stuff) but whats point if it is unusable...
> 
> I know it stinks. But it's the only one that is (1) free and (2) works on a 64 bit BSD unix box (what the server is on).
> 
> The old one we used on the 32 bit BSD box wasn't that good, either.
> 
> I can't believe it's that hard to write a decent one.

bobef wrote:
> After a fast sf.net search:
> 
> http://web-news.sourceforge.net/
> demo here:
> https://intranet.cs.hku.hk/services/webnews/newsgroups.php
> 
> looks good and I believe PHP is supported on any OS
> 
> 
> Walter Bright wrote:
>> bobef wrote:
>>> This is not really a D problem but still. The new newsgroup web interface is useless (IMO of course). It is impossible to follow a thread (no thread view even). It looks better than the old one (colors and stuff) but whats point if it is unusable...
>>
>> I know it stinks. But it's the only one that is (1) free and (2) works on a 64 bit BSD unix box (what the server is on).
>>
>> The old one we used on the 32 bit BSD box wasn't that good, either.
>>
>> I can't believe it's that hard to write a decent one.

Nice!  It even functions as an RSS portal.

-- 
- EricAnderton at yahoo