December 04, 2006
Alexander Panek wrote:
> It's a nice interface for viewing posts, but not
> for following threads, I have to agree there.

Also fairly horrible for posting. (Nonresizeable popup, no tabbing, messed up quoting, no form field memory). Though the real PITA IMHO is the complete lack of any search facility.

Google Groups is pretty good, but I don't think it supports NNTP for user-created groups, which is swinging way too far back the other way.

It ought to be possible to get Google to publish this group through Groups - it's much higher volume than many of the official Usenet groups it covers - but I don't know how you'd go about it.
December 04, 2006
Mike Capp wrote:
> It ought to be possible to get Google to publish this group through Groups - it's
> much higher volume than many of the official Usenet groups it covers - but I don't
> know how you'd go about it.

I've repeatedly submitted it to Google to no avail. On the other hand, being ignored by Google also means we are largely ignored by spammers. I frankly prefer it that way.
December 04, 2006
On Mon, 4 Dec 2006, Walter Bright wrote:
> 
> Mike Capp wrote:
> > It ought to be possible to get Google to publish this group through Groups -
> > it's
> > much higher volume than many of the official Usenet groups it covers - but I
> > don't
> > know how you'd go about it.
> 
> I've repeatedly submitted it to Google to no avail. On the other hand, being ignored by Google also means we are largely ignored by spammers. I frankly prefer it that way.
> 

Google does index the archives off my mailing list.  I've setup a search box that restricts the search to lists.puremagic.com, so it's fairly narrow:

    http://lists.puremagic.com/

On my todo list for those pages, in no particular order:
  - narrow the search to the appropriate list
  - add the standard 'The D Programming Language' verbage
  - attempt to backfill the data (anyone have all the posts for all the
lists in mbox format?)

Later,
Brad
December 05, 2006
bobef wrote:
> After a fast sf.net search:
> 
> http://web-news.sourceforge.net/
> demo here:
> https://intranet.cs.hku.hk/services/webnews/newsgroups.php
> 
> looks good and I believe PHP is supported on any OS

Cool!

I tried installing it on my local Apache server (that I used for testing).  It was easy to install, and it seems to work like a charm.

> Walter Bright wrote:
>> bobef wrote:
>>> This is not really a D problem but still. The new newsgroup web interface is useless (IMO of course). It is impossible to follow a thread (no thread view even). It looks better than the old one (colors and stuff) but whats point if it is unusable...
>>
>> I know it stinks. But it's the only one that is (1) free and (2) works on a 64 bit BSD unix box (what the server is on).
>>
>> The old one we used on the 32 bit BSD box wasn't that good, either.
>>
>> I can't believe it's that hard to write a decent one.

-- 
jcc7
December 05, 2006
Justin C Calvarese Wrote:

> bobef wrote:
> > After a fast sf.net search:
> > 
> > http://web-news.sourceforge.net/
> > demo here:
> > https://intranet.cs.hku.hk/services/webnews/newsgroups.php
> > 
> > looks good and I believe PHP is supported on any OS
> 
> Cool!
> 
> I tried installing it on my local Apache server (that I used for testing).  It was easy to install, and it seems to work like a charm.

(I can even use it to reply to another post if this post goes through...)

> 
> > Walter Bright wrote:
> >> bobef wrote:
> >>> This is not really a D problem but still. The new newsgroup web interface is useless (IMO of course). It is impossible to follow a thread (no thread view even). It looks better than the old one (colors and stuff) but whats point if it is unusable...
> >>
> >> I know it stinks. But it's the only one that is (1) free and (2) works on a 64 bit BSD unix box (what the server is on).
> >>
> >> The old one we used on the 32 bit BSD box wasn't that good, either.
> >>
> >> I can't believe it's that hard to write a decent one.
> 
> -- 
> jcc7

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