Nick Sabalausky wrote:
> "another lurker" <lurker@lurk.urk> wrote in message news:hrfcfi$1eaq$1@digitalmars.com...
>> == Quote from Don (nospam@nospam.com)'s article
>>> FeepingCreature wrote:
>>>   The quality-of-code metric seems to be universally acknowledged -
>>> after all, druntime itself is a fork of tango core.
>>> "We think you suck, so we'll base our new standard library on your work. "
>>> You seem to be unaware of the history, and this may be leading you to
>>> misunderstand the situation.
>>> Sean Kelly wrote Ares as a replacement for Phobos. Tango began as a
>>> merger of Ares with Mango. "Tango core" is Ares. Druntime is also Ares.
>>> The primary author has never changed, and it's an unbroken continuation
>>> of development on a single code base. Ditto with tango.math, (which was
>>> written by me, originally in a project called 'mathextra').
>> Thank you Sean Kelly, Don and Steve Schveiguy for leaving Tango and coming to
>> Phobos. It means very much for everybody.
> 
> Don just said in the message you're replying to that they didn't leave Tango. 

My most recent svn commit to Tango was only a month ago, so I still have a toe in both camps. But actually I've spent almost all of my time working on the compiler.
I have not yet decided on how I will respond to this situation.

Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
> Second, I recall a similar accusation (I'm not sure whether it was coming from 'retard' or someone else) about an arrogant [...]

Probably meaning me <g>.

On 30.04.2010 21:25, Don wrote:
> FeepingCreature wrote:
> 
>  The quality-of-code metric seems to be universally acknowledged - after
> all, druntime itself is a fork of tango core.
> 
> "We think you suck, so we'll base our new standard library on your work. "
> 
> You seem to be unaware of the history, and this may be leading you to misunderstand the situation.
> 
> Sean Kelly wrote Ares as a replacement for Phobos. Tango began as a merger of Ares with Mango. "Tango core" is Ares. Druntime is also Ares. The primary author has never changed, and it's an unbroken continuation of development on a single code base. Ditto with tango.math, (which was written by me, originally in a project called 'mathextra').

Oh, that explains the kerfluffle a bit better. Thanks. :)

Don <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
> Nick Sabalausky wrote:
> > "another lurker" <lurker@lurk.urk> wrote in message > news:hrfcfi$1eaq$1@digitalmars.com...
> >> == Quote from Don (nospam@nospam.com)'s article
> >>> FeepingCreature wrote:
> >>>   The quality-of-code metric seems to be universally acknowledged
> > > > -
> >>> after all, druntime itself is a fork of tango core.
> >>> "We think you suck, so we'll base our new standard library on your
> > > > work. >>> "
> >>> You seem to be unaware of the history, and this may be leading you
> > > > to
> >>> misunderstand the situation.
> >>> Sean Kelly wrote Ares as a replacement for Phobos. Tango began as
> > > > a
> >>> merger of Ares with Mango. "Tango core" is Ares. Druntime is also
> > > > Ares.
> >>> The primary author has never changed, and it's an unbroken
> > > > continuation
> >>> of development on a single code base. Ditto with tango.math,
> > > > (which was
> >>> written by me, originally in a project called 'mathextra').
> >> Thank you Sean Kelly, Don and Steve Schveiguy for leaving Tango and
> > > coming >> to
> >> Phobos. It means very much for everybody.
> > > Don just said in the message you're replying to that they didn't leave > Tango.
> My most recent svn commit to Tango was only a month ago, so I still
> have a toe in both camps. But actually I've spent almost all of my
> time working on the compiler.
> I have not yet decided on how I will respond to this situation.

I don't know whether it's relevant, but I haven't even looked at Tango code (other than my own modules) since Druntime was created.  Regardless of any personal reasons, I simply don't have the time to support more than one project.

Regrding this latest bit of drama, I have to say that I'm coming to regret my decision to help start Tango.  It was a great opportunity to do some work that interested me, but the cost to the community has been too high.  I sincerely hope that people get over whatever issues they have and simply focus on making D a better language.

== Quote from Sean Kelly (sean@invisibleduck.org)'s article
> Don <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
> > Nick Sabalausky wrote:
> > > "another lurker" <lurker@lurk.urk> wrote in message > news:hrfcfi$1eaq$1@digitalmars.com...
> > >> == Quote from Don (nospam@nospam.com)'s article
> > >>> FeepingCreature wrote:
> > >>>   The quality-of-code metric seems to be universally acknowledged
> > > > > -
> > >>> after all, druntime itself is a fork of tango core.
> > >>> "We think you suck, so we'll base our new standard library on your
> > > > > work. >>> "
> > >>> You seem to be unaware of the history, and this may be leading you
> > > > > to
> > >>> misunderstand the situation.
> > >>> Sean Kelly wrote Ares as a replacement for Phobos. Tango began as
> > > > > a
> > >>> merger of Ares with Mango. "Tango core" is Ares. Druntime is also
> > > > > Ares.
> > >>> The primary author has never changed, and it's an unbroken
> > > > > continuation
> > >>> of development on a single code base. Ditto with tango.math,
> > > > > (which was
> > >>> written by me, originally in a project called 'mathextra').
> > >> Thank you Sean Kelly, Don and Steve Schveiguy for leaving Tango and
> > > > coming >> to
> > >> Phobos. It means very much for everybody.
> > > > Don just said in the message you're replying to that they didn't leave > Tango.
> > My most recent svn commit to Tango was only a month ago, so I still
> > have a toe in both camps. But actually I've spent almost all of my
> > time working on the compiler.
> > I have not yet decided on how I will respond to this situation.
> I don't know whether it's relevant, but I haven't even looked at Tango
> code (other than my own modules) since Druntime was created.  Regardless
> of any personal reasons, I simply don't have the time to support more
> than one project.
> Regrding this latest bit of drama, I have to say that I'm coming to
> regret my decision to help start Tango.  It was a great opportunity to
> do some work that interested me, but the cost to the community has been
> too high.  I sincerely hope that people get over whatever issues they
> have and simply focus on making D a better language.

I appreciate your decision to leave that wasp nest and join Phobos.

--
Gurney Halleck

On 05/03/2010 11:51 PM, Gurney Halleck wrote:
> == Quote from Sean Kelly (sean@invisibleduck.org)'s article
>> Don<nospam@nospam.com>  wrote:
>>> Nick Sabalausky wrote:
>>>> "another lurker"<lurker@lurk.urk>  wrote in message>
>>>> news:hrfcfi$1eaq$1@digitalmars.com...
>>>>> == Quote from Don (nospam@nospam.com)'s article
>>>>>> FeepingCreature wrote:
>>>>>>  ...
> I appreciate your decision to leave that wasp nest and join Phobos.
>
> --
> Gurney Halleck

It doesn't really help to disparage the other people.  I know that lots of strong emotions have been raised here, but use them to support the cause you favor, not to tear down the other side.  It yields a much healthier community.