just checked and the windows help file d.chm is still broken. weird scripting errors appear for every page/link. it is not usable this way. (it also wants to connect to the internet, which i don't like at all, but this could be a windows thing.)

i love this help resource!

[sorry for posting here, i couldn't figure out how to reply on the beta channel. it does not seem to be a newsgroup and i don't want to subscribe to a mailing list.]

On 6/12/2013 6:26 PM, captaindet wrote:
> just checked and the windows help file d.chm is still broken. weird scripting
> errors appear for every page/link. it is not usable this way. (it also wants to
> connect to the internet, which i don't like at all, but this could be a windows
> thing.)
>
> i love this help resource!
>
> [sorry for posting here, i couldn't figure out how to reply on the beta channel.
> it does not seem to be a newsgroup and i don't want to subscribe to a mailing
> list.]

How strange, it works on my machine.

On Thursday, 13 June 2013 at 01:26:09 UTC, captaindet wrote:
> just checked and the windows help file d.chm is still broken. weird scripting errors appear for every page/link. it is not usable this way. (it also wants to connect to the internet, which i don't like at all, but this could be a windows thing.)
>
> i love this help resource!
>
> [sorry for posting here, i couldn't figure out how to reply on the beta channel. it does not seem to be a newsgroup and i don't want to subscribe to a mailing list.]

Have you checked if the file is blocked via the "file properties"?

For security reasons help files downloaded from Internet need to be unblocked, before all features are allowed.


--
Paulo

On 2013-06-13 01:07, Paulo Pinto wrote:
> On Thursday, 13 June 2013 at 01:26:09 UTC, captaindet wrote:
>> just checked and the windows help file d.chm is still broken. weird scripting errors appear for every page/link. it is not usable this way. (it also wants to connect to the internet, which i don't like at all, but this could be a windows thing.)
>>
>> i love this help resource!
>>
>> [sorry for posting here, i couldn't figure out how to reply on the beta channel. it does not seem to be a newsgroup and i don't want to subscribe to a mailing list.]
>
> Have you checked if the file is blocked via the "file properties"?
>
> For security reasons help files downloaded from Internet need to be unblocked, before all features are allowed.
>
>
> --
> Paulo

i don't use internet explorer. no downloaded file ever gets blocked on my system by windows. starting d.chm is not the problem.

i use d.chm from the all system .zip file. so i did not even download it directly.

btw: were would i be able to download it directly? i was searching for it since 2.063 came out and could not find it.

On 2013-06-13 00:58, Walter Bright wrote:
> On 6/12/2013 6:26 PM, captaindet wrote:
>> just checked and the windows help file d.chm is still broken. weird scripting
>> errors appear for every page/link. it is not usable this way. (it also wants to
>> connect to the internet, which i don't like at all, but this could be a windows
>> thing.)
>>
>> i love this help resource!
>>
>> [sorry for posting here, i couldn't figure out how to reply on the beta channel.
>> it does not seem to be a newsgroup and i don't want to subscribe to a mailing
>> list.]
>
> How strange, it works on my machine.


some further information:

i use the all systems .zip file and the problem is there since the 2.063 release. (as in: no problem before, including 2.062).

i have two different behaviors on my 2 win7-64 systems (they are in ifferent states of updating, one is fully patched, they other one not.). i have comodo firewall/defense running and can see a bit what is happening under the hood.

as usual when starting a new .chm help file, it needs to set half a dozen of registry keys. i allow this. then it wants to connect to the internet. this is very dubious and i don't allow it. this is something that should not happen and requires a fix already. a .chm file is meant for offline use.

on the old system, help contents are shown, but for every page/link i open, a scripting error message windows pops up. super annoying.

on the up-to-date system, i only see the list of content, but no actual content (just white space). no error message, no help.

if found that Andrej Mitrovic reported slow performance and potential online access/script downloading for an earlier beta:
http://forum.dlang.org/thread/51A50740.8040906@digitalmars.com#post-CAJ85NXB:2BJFjYX3dYOgJRW1OythZU9FovSigyAHhNnARuY652wQ:40mail.gmail.com

so it seems that the 2.063 .chm is not complete in itself but needs internet access. because i don't allow it, it fails. a .chm help file should be complete/consistent and work without online access. otherwise it is of no use.

Am 13.06.2013 17:52, schrieb captaindet:
> On 2013-06-13 01:07, Paulo Pinto wrote:
>> On Thursday, 13 June 2013 at 01:26:09 UTC, captaindet wrote:
>>> just checked and the windows help file d.chm is still broken. weird
>>> scripting errors appear for every page/link. it is not usable this
>>> way. (it also wants to connect to the internet, which i don't like at
>>> all, but this could be a windows thing.)
>>>
>>> i love this help resource!
>>>
>>> [sorry for posting here, i couldn't figure out how to reply on the
>>> beta channel. it does not seem to be a newsgroup and i don't want to
>>> subscribe to a mailing list.]
>>
>> Have you checked if the file is blocked via the "file properties"?
>>
>> For security reasons help files downloaded from Internet need to be
>> unblocked, before all features are allowed.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Paulo
>
> i don't use internet explorer. no downloaded file ever gets blocked on
> my system by windows. starting d.chm is not the problem.
>
> i use d.chm from the all system .zip file. so i did not even download it
> directly.
>
> btw: were would i be able to download it directly? i was searching for
> it since 2.063 came out and could not find it.
>
>

It is a standard Windows behavior since XP SP 3, don't forget that CHM files use Internet Explorer as ActiveX component.

Files extracted from .zip files inherit the .zip file security settings.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/902225/en-us

Please try to unblock the chm file as suggested by Microsoft.

--
Paulo

On 2013-06-13 11:35, Paulo Pinto wrote:
> Am 13.06.2013 17:52, schrieb captaindet:
>> On 2013-06-13 01:07, Paulo Pinto wrote:
>>> On Thursday, 13 June 2013 at 01:26:09 UTC, captaindet wrote:
>>>> just checked and the windows help file d.chm is still broken.
>>>> weird scripting errors appear for every page/link. it is not
>>>> usable this way. (it also wants to connect to the internet,
>>>> which i don't like at all, but this could be a windows thing.)
>>>>
>>>> i love this help resource!
>>>>
>>>> [sorry for posting here, i couldn't figure out how to reply on
>>>> the beta channel. it does not seem to be a newsgroup and i
>>>> don't want to subscribe to a mailing list.]
>>>
>>> Have you checked if the file is blocked via the "file
>>> properties"?
>>>
>>> For security reasons help files downloaded from Internet need to
>>> be unblocked, before all features are allowed.
>>>
>>>
>>> -- Paulo
>>
>> i don't use internet explorer. no downloaded file ever gets blocked
>> on my system by windows. starting d.chm is not the problem.
>>
>> i use d.chm from the all system .zip file. so i did not even
>> download it directly.
>>
>> btw: were would i be able to download it directly? i was searching
>> for it since 2.063 came out and could not find it.
>>
>>
>
> It is a standard Windows behavior since XP SP 3, don't forget that
> CHM files use Internet Explorer as ActiveX component.
>
> Files extracted from .zip files inherit the .zip file security
> settings.
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/902225/en-us
>
> Please try to unblock the chm file as suggested by Microsoft.
>
> -- Paulo

thanks for following up on this but this is definitely not the problem here. to be sure i used IE and downloaded a random file to see how this un/blocking works (as i am usually not confronted with this). and yes i found an unblock button in the properties of a downloaded installer. however, the 'd.chm' file from the full D zip does not have this property set, there is no unblock button. as i have elaborated further in the other post, d.chm does actually start up (blocked files files do not start), i just cannot use it. it seems it needs further content/scripts/styles from the internet to work. i did not allow it to connect to the internet for several reasons. the most obvious one is that this help is meant for offline use, otherwise i could just browse the d homepage.

Am 13.06.2013 20:23, schrieb captaindet:
> On 2013-06-13 11:35, Paulo Pinto wrote:
>> Am 13.06.2013 17:52, schrieb captaindet:
>>> On 2013-06-13 01:07, Paulo Pinto wrote:
>>>> On Thursday, 13 June 2013 at 01:26:09 UTC, captaindet wrote:
>>>>> just checked and the windows help file d.chm is still broken.
>>>>> weird scripting errors appear for every page/link. it is not
>>>>> usable this way. (it also wants to connect to the internet,
>>>>> which i don't like at all, but this could be a windows thing.)
>>>>>
>>>>> i love this help resource!
>>>>>
>>>>> [sorry for posting here, i couldn't figure out how to reply on
>>>>> the beta channel. it does not seem to be a newsgroup and i
>>>>> don't want to subscribe to a mailing list.]
>>>>
>>>> Have you checked if the file is blocked via the "file
>>>> properties"?
>>>>
>>>> For security reasons help files downloaded from Internet need to
>>>> be unblocked, before all features are allowed.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -- Paulo
>>>
>>> i don't use internet explorer. no downloaded file ever gets blocked
>>> on my system by windows. starting d.chm is not the problem.
>>>
>>> i use d.chm from the all system .zip file. so i did not even
>>> download it directly.
>>>
>>> btw: were would i be able to download it directly? i was searching
>>> for it since 2.063 came out and could not find it.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> It is a standard Windows behavior since XP SP 3, don't forget that
>> CHM files use Internet Explorer as ActiveX component.
>>
>> Files extracted from .zip files inherit the .zip file security
>> settings.
>>
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/902225/en-us
>>
>> Please try to unblock the chm file as suggested by Microsoft.
>>
>> -- Paulo
>
> thanks for following up on this but this is definitely not the problem
> here. to be sure i used IE and downloaded a random file to see how this
> un/blocking works (as i am usually not confronted with this). and yes i
> found an unblock button in the properties of a downloaded installer.
> however, the 'd.chm' file from the full D zip does not have this
> property set, there is no unblock button. as i have elaborated further
> in the other post, d.chm does actually start up (blocked files files do
> not start), i just cannot use it. it seems it needs further
> content/scripts/styles from the internet to work. i did not allow it to
> connect to the internet for several reasons. the most obvious one is
> that this help is meant for offline use, otherwise i could just browse
> the d homepage.

I just tried and in my case I get a unblock button.

Having said that you are right there seems to be some comunication going on.

Maybe it is better if someone from D developers can have a look at it, I am afraid I cannot be of much help.

--
Paulo

On 6/13/2013 11:23 AM, captaindet wrote:
> thanks for following up on this but this is definitely not the problem here. to
> be sure i used IE and downloaded a random file to see how this un/blocking works
> (as i am usually not confronted with this). and yes i found an unblock button in
> the properties of a downloaded installer. however, the 'd.chm' file from the
> full D zip does not have this property set, there is no unblock button. as i
> have elaborated further in the other post, d.chm does actually start up (blocked
> files files do not start), i just cannot use it. it seems it needs further
> content/scripts/styles from the internet to work. i did not allow it to connect
> to the internet for several reasons. the most obvious one is that this help is
> meant for offline use, otherwise i could just browse the d homepage.

What files is it looking for?

On 2013-06-13 14:47, Paulo Pinto wrote:
> I just tried and in my case I get a unblock button.
>
> Having said that you are right there seems to be some comunication
> going on.
>
> Maybe it is better if someone from D developers can have a look at
> it, I am afraid I cannot be of much help.
>
> -- Paulo

FWIW

i figured out the windows blocking part - (which has nothing to to do with the original problem)

any file (at least .exe and .zip) downloaded with IE (maybe even FF, not tested) gets the 'danger' entry and shows the 'unblock' button in file properties.

now if you use the windows built-in unzip, this property is propagated to the extracted files, even harmless .txt files.

me, not using IE nor explorer nor the built-in zip (but rather opera and total commander), never encounter these annoying blocking issues.

/det