Walter asked me to post this to this list.

The Emacs D Mode project is at:  https://launchpad.net/emacs-d-mode and the group is at:  https://launchpad.net/~emacs-d-mode-maintainers

It's only me just now, but hopefully there are other Emacs users and ELisp capable people who will volunteer to join in so there is a community that can ensure progress.

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On 10/25/10 1:32 CDT, Russel Winder wrote:
> Walter asked me to post this to this list.
>
> The Emacs D Mode project is at:  https://launchpad.net/emacs-d-mode
> and the group is at:  https://launchpad.net/~emacs-d-mode-maintainers
>
> It's only me just now, but hopefully there are other Emacs users and
> ELisp capable people who will volunteer to join in so there is a
> community that can ensure progress.

Thanks! I just tendered my candidature :o).

Andrei

On Mon, 2010-10-25 at 11:29 -0500, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: [ . . . ]
> Thanks! I just tendered my candidature :o).

Accepted and voted in.  :-)

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I'm not a huge fan of Bazaar :-p ,
but thanks for putting it up somewhere more amenable to collaborative
revisioning than the wiki where it was!
I'll take Bazaar over a bizarre wiki interface any day.

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On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 9:55 AM, Russel Winder <russel@russel.org.uk> wrote:

> On Mon, 2010-10-25 at 11:29 -0500, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: [ . . . ]
> > Thanks! I just tendered my candidature :o).
>
> Accepted and voted in.  :-)
>
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On Mon, 25 Oct 2010 07:32:00 +0100
>>>>>> "Russel" == Russel Winder <russel@russel.org.uk> wrote:

Russel> It's only me just now, but hopefully there are other Emacs Russel> users and ELisp capable people who will volunteer to join in so Russel> there is a community that can ensure progress.

I'm an Emacs user, but not Elisp-capable person, so I am not certain whether it makes sense to join?


Sincerely,
Gour

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On Mon, 2010-10-25 at 20:01 +0200, Gour wrote:
[ . . . ]
> I'm an Emacs user, but not Elisp-capable person, so I am not certain whether it makes sense to join?

I think members of the team really need to be E-Lisp capable and prepared to amend and test the code.  But I say this with some caution as it is important to have people willing to test, even if they are not able to amend themselves.

I guess what is needed is some form of email list for everyone who uses the mode to create the community with active amenders of the code being members of the management team.

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On Mon, 2010-10-25 at 10:20 -0700, Bill Baxter wrote:
> I'm not a huge fan of Bazaar :-p ,

Hummm... May I ask why?

Personally I think Bazaar, Mercurial and Git beat Subversion, CVS, ClearCase, TFS, etc. always.  Moreover Bazaar and Mercurial beat Git. Overall I see two different best cases for Bazaar and Mercurial -- basically when it is important for file hierarchy to be a branch vs having everything all in one repository.

> but thanks for putting it up somewhere more amenable to collaborative
> revisioning than the wiki where it was!
> I'll take Bazaar over a bizarre wiki interface any day.

:-)

No problem.  I have this hatred of source code being stored on wikis as both the SCons and D communities now know :-)

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I agree completely with your rankings of the tools, I just come down on the side of Mercurial rather than Bazaar.

I don't really like how Bazaar tries to support multiple workflows. (
http://wiki.bazaar.canonical.com/Workflows)
I prefer the simplicity of Mercurial's approach.  It doesn't ask you to
first figure out how you're going to be using the repository.  Bazaar's
approach reminds me of doing object-oriented programming in lisp or lua or
javascript.  "It's so flexible!" they say.  "You can implement classes and
inheritance in all these different ways!"  Bleh.  Just give me one that
works well and don't make me spend my time on such low-level decisions.

But Bazaar would be my #2 choice after Mercurial.  It's certainly better than most.

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On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 11:42 AM, Russel Winder <russel@russel.org.uk>wrote:

> On Mon, 2010-10-25 at 10:20 -0700, Bill Baxter wrote:
> > I'm not a huge fan of Bazaar :-p ,
>
> Hummm... May I ask why?
>
> Personally I think Bazaar, Mercurial and Git beat Subversion, CVS, ClearCase, TFS, etc. always.  Moreover Bazaar and Mercurial beat Git. Overall I see two different best cases for Bazaar and Mercurial -- basically when it is important for file hierarchy to be a branch vs having everything all in one repository.
>
> > but thanks for putting it up somewhere more amenable to collaborative
> > revisioning than the wiki where it was!
> > I'll take Bazaar over a bizarre wiki interface any day.
>
> :-)
>
> No problem.  I have this hatred of source code being stored on wikis as both the SCons and D communities now know :-)
>
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As one of those strange creatures who use emacs, I thank you for taking this up! Sadly I'm not an elisper but if I find bugs I'll let you know.

On 25/10/10 07:32, Russel Winder wrote:
> Walter asked me to post this to this list.
>
> The Emacs D Mode project is at:  https://launchpad.net/emacs-d-mode
> and the group is at:  https://launchpad.net/~emacs-d-mode-maintainers
>
> It's only me just now, but hopefully there are other Emacs users and
> ELisp capable people who will volunteer to join in so there is a
> community that can ensure progress.
>

On Mon, 25 Oct 2010 12:30:56 -0700
>>>>>> "Bill" == Bill Baxter wrote:

Bill> I agree completely with your rankings of the tools, I just come Bill> down on the side of Mercurial rather than Bazaar.

Let me just say that after using darcs for many years as my primary
dvcs, now I moved to Monotone which will soon be supported by
e.g. indefero.net hosting.

Otoh, I like both bzr & hg as long it's not named 'git'. :-)


Sincerely,
Gour

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