June 04, 2018 GitHub could be acquired by Microsoft | ||||
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This is still just a rumour, we'll know the truth on Monday (which is today). Some articles about the topic: https://fossbytes.com/microsoft-github-aquisition-report/ https://www.theverge.com/2018/6/3/17422752/microsoft-github-acquisition-rumors What's your opinion about that? Will you continue using GitHub? Both GitLab and Bitbucket can be used instead to host your D projects - dub registry supported them for a while now. IMHO Microsoft isn't the type of company I want to see behind the GitHub. Maybe I am wrong since Microsoft has both money and programmers to improve it further, I just don't trust them too much which is the right thing to do when dealing with companies. This means that I will move my repositories elsewhere and use GitHub just to contribute to other projects. |
June 04, 2018 Re: GitHub could be acquired by Microsoft | ||||
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Posted in reply to Anton Fediushin | Git was never my favorite VCS. So I hope that this step will open door for project like pijul.org github.com is only site, not religious. So if it will be closed people will move/create to its analogs. |
June 04, 2018 Re: GitHub could be acquired by Microsoft | ||||
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Posted in reply to Anton Fediushin | On Monday, 4 June 2018 at 03:51:15 UTC, Anton Fediushin wrote: > This is still just a rumour, we'll know the truth on Monday (which is today). > > Some articles about the topic: > > https://fossbytes.com/microsoft-github-aquisition-report/ > https://www.theverge.com/2018/6/3/17422752/microsoft-github-acquisition-rumors > > What's your opinion about that? Will you continue using GitHub? Well, MS already contributes big time to many open-source projects, including Git. I do not see immanent problem with them buying it. > > Both GitLab and Bitbucket can be used instead to host your D projects - dub registry supported them for a while now. Both are fine, though Gitlab seems more sexy now. > IMHO Microsoft isn't the type of company I want to see behind the GitHub. Maybe I am wrong since Microsoft has both money and programmers to improve it further, I just don't trust them too much which is the right thing to do when dealing with companies. Would you trust Google? Me, I’m not. In fact if we were to place trust, comercial IT companies would be pretty down on my list of “trust” in any case. > This means that I will move my repositories elsewhere and use GitHub just to contribute to other projects. |
June 04, 2018 Re: GitHub could be acquired by Microsoft | ||||
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Posted in reply to Anton Fediushin | On Monday, 4 June 2018 at 03:51:15 UTC, Anton Fediushin wrote: > This is still just a rumour, we'll know the truth on Monday (which is today). > > Some articles about the topic: > > https://fossbytes.com/microsoft-github-aquisition-report/ > https://www.theverge.com/2018/6/3/17422752/microsoft-github-acquisition-rumors > > What's your opinion about that? Will you continue using GitHub? > > Both GitLab and Bitbucket can be used instead to host your D projects - dub registry supported them for a while now. > > IMHO Microsoft isn't the type of company I want to see behind the GitHub. Maybe I am wrong since Microsoft has both money and programmers to improve it further, I just don't trust them too much which is the right thing to do when dealing with companies. This means that I will move my repositories elsewhere and use GitHub just to contribute to other projects. Looks like a done deal, will be announced tomorrow: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-06-03/microsoft-is-said-to-have-agreed-to-acquire-coding-site-github It all depends on how much support they pour into github, but I agree it's not a good sign. |
June 03, 2018 Re: GitHub could be acquired by Microsoft | ||||
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Posted in reply to Anton Fediushin | On Monday, June 04, 2018 03:51:15 Anton Fediushin via Digitalmars-d-announce wrote:
> This is still just a rumour, we'll know the truth on Monday
> (which is today).
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> Some articles about the topic:
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> https://fossbytes.com/microsoft-github-aquisition-report/ https://www.theverge.com/2018/6/3/17422752/microsoft-github-acquisition-ru mors
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> What's your opinion about that? Will you continue using GitHub?
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> Both GitLab and Bitbucket can be used instead to host your D projects - dub registry supported them for a while now.
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> IMHO Microsoft isn't the type of company I want to see behind the GitHub. Maybe I am wrong since Microsoft has both money and programmers to improve it further, I just don't trust them too much which is the right thing to do when dealing with companies. This means that I will move my repositories elsewhere and use GitHub just to contribute to other projects.
It would increase the odds that I would put public repos on bitbucket (that's already where I put all of my private repos, since it's free there but not at github). But I don't know. The main reason to go with github is because it's the main place that folks go looking for open source projects, and anyone who finds you on github (be it through the official dlang projects or something else) will find your stuff on github that way but not the stuff that you have elsewhere. On some level, what you have on github serves as a resume in a way that it wouldn't with other sites (especially if folks are finding you online rather than you pointing to your repos in your actual resume).
I can't say that I'll be happy if Microosft buys github (just like I wasn't happy when they bought linkedin), but I also can't say for sure that it will change what I do. A lot of that will depend on what Microsoft does and how it affects the open source community at large. The odds of my hosting stuff elsewhere definitely then go up, but I don't know what I'll do. This is bad news but likely not catastrophic.
On the bright side, maybe this will encourage online repo hosting to become less of a monopoly as folks move elsewhere due to their concerns about Microsoft.
- Jonathan M Davis
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June 04, 2018 Re: GitHub could be acquired by Microsoft | ||||
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Posted in reply to Suliman | On Monday, 4 June 2018 at 03:57:37 UTC, Suliman wrote:
> Git was never my favorite VCS. So I hope that this step will open door for project like pijul.org
> github.com is only site, not religious. So if it will be closed people will move/create to its analogs.
Git has nothing to do with github, it's just a technology they happen to use but they have no privilege on it. It won't change a thing on that side.
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June 04, 2018 Re: GitHub could be acquired by Microsoft | ||||
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Posted in reply to Dmitry Olshansky | On Monday, 4 June 2018 at 04:26:25 UTC, Dmitry Olshansky wrote: > On Monday, 4 June 2018 at 03:51:15 UTC, Anton Fediushin wrote: >> This is still just a rumour, we'll know the truth on Monday (which is today). >> >> Some articles about the topic: >> >> https://fossbytes.com/microsoft-github-aquisition-report/ >> https://www.theverge.com/2018/6/3/17422752/microsoft-github-acquisition-rumors >> >> What's your opinion about that? Will you continue using GitHub? > > Well, MS already contributes big time to many open-source projects, including Git. > I do not see immanent problem with them buying it. I can think of hundreds of things what can go wrong including: forcing users to use Microsoft accounts, advertising own products, changing search to Bing (that's pretty bad one, no idea how I came up with it) and more and more. I can agree though that last 5 years or so Microsoft is doing well with open-source projects. Question is: will it carry on with open-source? > >> >> Both GitLab and Bitbucket can be used instead to host your D projects - dub registry supported them for a while now. > > Both are fine, though Gitlab seems more sexy now. Indeed it is. GitHub is stuck in 2010-s and the UI of GitLab is beautiful and smooth. > >> IMHO Microsoft isn't the type of company I want to see behind the GitHub. Maybe I am wrong since Microsoft has both money and programmers to improve it further, I just don't trust them too much which is the right thing to do when dealing with companies. > > Would you trust Google? Me, I’m not. > In fact if we were to place trust, comercial IT companies would be pretty down on my list of “trust” in any case. If you'd ask me a year or two ago - maybe, but now I have no idea what Google is doing and last bits of trust I had are gone. |
June 04, 2018 Re: GitHub could be acquired by Microsoft | ||||
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Posted in reply to Jonathan M Davis | On Monday, 4 June 2018 at 04:40:44 UTC, Jonathan M Davis wrote: > On the bright side, maybe this will encourage online repo hosting to become less of a monopoly as folks move elsewhere due to their concerns about Microsoft. > > - Jonathan M Davis Can't agree more: GitLab and Bitbucket deserve more attention. Speaking of which, there's huge spike [1] in project imports on GitLab. These are some great news for it, I hope it doesn't crash. [1] https://monitor.gitlab.net/dashboard/db/github-importer?orgId=1 |
June 04, 2018 Re: GitHub could be acquired by Microsoft | ||||
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Posted in reply to Anton Fediushin | 04.06.2018 09:02, Anton Fediushin пишет:
> On Monday, 4 June 2018 at 04:40:44 UTC, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
>> On the bright side, maybe this will encourage online repo hosting to become less of a monopoly as folks move elsewhere due to their concerns about Microsoft.
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>> - Jonathan M Davis
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> Can't agree more: GitLab and Bitbucket deserve more attention.
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> Speaking of which, there's huge spike [1] in project imports on GitLab. These are some great news for it, I hope it doesn't crash.
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> [1] https://monitor.gitlab.net/dashboard/db/github-importer?orgId=1
Gitlab has a big (for me) advantage being self hosted standalone system I can use privately. Its free version has restrictions comparing to enterprise version but very usable.
What about sexy modern design it's annoying (for me again) that this design changes frequently, it forces me almost every update to find where menus and buttons I used before placed now.
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June 04, 2018 Re: GitHub could be acquired by Microsoft | ||||
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Posted in reply to Anton Fediushin | On 6/3/2018 8:51 PM, Anton Fediushin wrote:
> This is still just a rumour, we'll know the truth on Monday (which is today).
We'll stay on Github as long as it continues to serve our interests, which it has done very well, and I have no reason to believe will change.
We have a number of ties to Microsoft:
1. It's just down the street.
2. Many D users work at Microsoft.
3. Microsoft has always been helpful and supportive of Digital Mars, note the files licensed from Microsoft in the distribution.
4. Microsoft has invited myself and Andrei to speak at Microsoft from time to time.
5. Microsoft hosts the nwcpp.org meetings, which provide a venue for me to try out D presentations to a friendly crowd.
6. Microsoft has been generous with helping me solve some vexing compatibility problems from time to time.
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