On Monday, 18 December 2023 at 14:08:19 UTC, bachmeier wrote:
> >Also telling they get the job done "quietly", are you trying to hide the fact dlang is nearly dead
It doesn't add anything to the conversation to make ridiculous claims like this with no evidence. Calling D "nearly dead" indicates you're not making a good faith effort to participate in a discussion.
I find it very funny how every time I ask anybody to show me any "real app" written in D (to prove that D isn't dead), nobody can do it. All I hear is "Symmetry this" and "Symmetry that". Sometimes DPlug comes by. But I still haven't seen any real life useful app being developed in D. Never. So it's always either Symmetry, either some rumors about some company allegedly using D back in 2015 to do something with no real proof that D is still there or it was used in the first place.
What is the point of a programming language? For me, it's to make software. If the software isn't being made - the language is dead.
>They didn't post complaints, they wrote code. Then once they wrote all those libraries, other people used them.
For real? People complain about Python all the time. And because of those complaints something is being done about it. People complain because they care. When people stop complaining it's a telltale sign that they stopped caring (or left). Which is probably why you don't see a lot of complaints about D - because nobody is really writing D anyway. Every single person has left already.
>What will help this language at this point is working on libraries, documentation, tutorials, etc.
I have been saying the same thing for a logn time now. But now-now, I say nobody will write libraries for a language that actively prevents you from writing libraries in the first place. Like, why do you expect someone to do their job when they dare to complain about stuff? The amount of times I've been told to "shut up and do it yourself" is seriously unacceptable. To a degree of being told "just fork the lang if you don't like it". This is no way to drive in contributors.
On Monday, 18 December 2023 at 15:14:51 UTC, Hors wrote:
>From me: all languages haves something to offer, like python is beginner friendly, C was the master of it's time, Rust allows you to write good performant and safe code. But I can't really see whats D has to offer, D has many features of course, but when you using libraries, you may need to throw away half of the D.
Actually, over time, D became significantly lacking in features compared to other languages. The world has changed, and at this point in time, with Native AOT being a thing and producing reasonably sized executables, C# became a much better choice for me. And guess where I'm going to :)