Elephant appears dead.  Poseidon's activity is extremely low and is still alpha after 5 years. LEDS is even less active, and DDT doesn't have a release yet.  What do actual D programmers use?

-Mike

I use vim.

Michael Stover schrieb:
> Elephant appears dead.  Poseidon's activity is extremely low and is still alpha after 5 years. LEDS is even less active, and DDT doesn't have a release yet.  What do actual D programmers use?
> 
> -Mike

For Windows http://d-ide.sourceforge.net/ is probably great.
I use Geany (on Linux), but unfortunately it's not really an IDE.. autocompletion doesn't really work (things get completed, but not smartly - it isn't aware of the type of a variable for example).

Currently I hope that http://d-dev-ide.blogspot.com/ will be as great as it looks.

On 10/12/2010 9:57 PM, Michael Stover wrote:
> Elephant appears dead.  Poseidon's activity is extremely low and is
> still alpha after 5 years. LEDS is even less active, and DDT doesn't
> have a release yet.  What do actual D programmers use?
>
> -Mike
As an Eclipse fan (don't laugh!) I've been using Descent for a couple of years now with good results.  I think others here may use VisualD.

Hello Michael,

> Elephant appears dead.  Poseidon's activity is extremely low and is
> still alpha after 5 years. LEDS is even less active, and DDT doesn't
> have a release yet.  What do actual D programmers use?
> 

Real life has gotten in the way for a while but if, make that when, I go back I expect I'll be using Beyond Compare. Yes it's a diff tool, not an IDE but I find it really handy to edit a file in comparison to a reference version.

-- 
... <IXOYE><

Why would I laugh?  I've been using Eclipse for nearly 10 years.  Descent claims to be a dead project, so I'm curious that you say you use it - what version of Eclipse are you using with it?  DDT is it's replacement and it has no release.

On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 10:18 PM, Eric Poggel <dnewsgroup2@yage3d.net>wrote:

> On 10/12/2010 9:57 PM, Michael Stover wrote:
>
>> Elephant appears dead.  Poseidon's activity is extremely low and is still alpha after 5 years. LEDS is even less active, and DDT doesn't have a release yet.  What do actual D programmers use?
>>
>> -Mike
>>
> As an Eclipse fan (don't laugh!) I've been using Descent for a couple of years now with good results.  I think others here may use VisualD.
>

On 10/12/2010 9:57 PM, Michael Stover wrote:
> Elephant appears dead.  Poseidon's activity is extremely low and is
> still alpha after 5 years. LEDS is even less active, and DDT doesn't
> have a release yet.  What do actual D programmers use?
>
> -Mike

From: patl@athena.mit.edu (Patrick J. LoPresti)
Subject: The True Path (long)
Date: 11 Jul 91 03:17:31 GMT
Newsgroups: alt.religion.emacs,alt.slack

When I log into my Xenix system with my 110 baud teletype, both vi
*and* Emacs are just too damn slow.  They print useless messages like,
'C-h for help' and '"foo" File is read only'.  So I use the editor
that doesn't waste my VALUABLE time.

Ed, man!  !man ed

ED(1)               UNIX Programmer's Manual                ED(1)

NAME
     ed - text editor

SYNOPSIS
     ed [ - ] [ -x ] [ name ]
DESCRIPTION
     Ed is the standard text editor.
---

Computer Scientists love ed, not just because it comes first
alphabetically, but because it's the standard.  Everyone else loves ed
because it's ED!

"Ed is the standard text editor."

And ed doesn't waste space on my Timex Sinclair.  Just look:

-rwxr-xr-x  1 root          24 Oct 29  1929 /bin/ed
-rwxr-xr-t  4 root     1310720 Jan  1  1970 /usr/ucb/vi
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root  5.89824e37 Oct 22  1990 /usr/bin/emacs

Of course, on the system *I* administrate, vi is symlinked to ed.
Emacs has been replaced by a shell script which 1) Generates a syslog
message at level LOG_EMERG; 2) reduces the user's disk quota by 100K;
and 3) RUNS ED!!!!!!

"Ed is the standard text editor."

Let's look at a typical novice's session with the mighty ed:

golem> ed

?
help
?
?
?
quit
?
exit
?
bye
?
hello?
?
eat flaming death
?
^C
?
^C
?
^D
?

---
Note the consistent user interface and error reportage.  Ed is
generous enough to flag errors, yet prudent enough not to overwhelm
the novice with verbosity.

"Ed is the standard text editor."

Ed, the greatest WYGIWYG editor of all.

ED IS THE TRUE PATH TO NIRVANA!  ED HAS BEEN THE CHOICE OF EDUCATED
AND IGNORANT ALIKE FOR CENTURIES!  ED WILL NOT CORRUPT YOUR PRECIOUS
BODILY FLUIDS!!  ED IS THE STANDARD TEXT EDITOR!  ED MAKES THE SUN
SHINE AND THE BIRDS SING AND THE GRASS GREEN!!

When I use an editor, I don't want eight extra KILOBYTES of worthless
help screens and cursor positioning code!  I just want an EDitor!!
Not a "viitor".  Not a "emacsitor".  Those aren't even WORDS!!!! ED!
ED! ED IS THE STANDARD!!!

TEXT EDITOR.

When IBM, in its ever-present omnipotence, needed to base their
"edlin" on a UNIX standard, did they mimic vi?  No.  Emacs?  Surely
you jest.  They chose the most karmic editor of all.  The standard.

Ed is for those who can *remember* what they are working on.  If you
are an idiot, you should use Emacs.  If you are an Emacs, you should
not be vi.  If you use ED, you are on THE PATH TO REDEMPTION.  THE
SO-CALLED "VISUAL" EDITORS HAVE BEEN PLACED HERE BY ED TO TEMPT THE
FAITHLESS.  DO NOT GIVE IN!!!  THE MIGHTY ED HAS SPOKEN!!!

?

Michael Stover wrote:
> Elephant appears dead.  Poseidon's activity is extremely low and is still alpha after 5 years. LEDS is even less active, and DDT doesn't have a release yet.  What do actual D programmers use?

microEmacs

Editors are designed for specific people, editors :)
All IDE's out there i have seen based on these editors.

You ask what actual programmers use, they mostly use these editors, i was one of those, and i curse those times. I am not an editor but a code writer, two different things, and the difference is grand. There is only one "editor" out there i know that actually targets coders is, gvim. If you have time (and not a little), you should give it a try.

Thanks.

On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 04:57:44 +0300, Michael Stover <michael.r.stover@gmail.com> wrote:

> Elephant appears dead.  Poseidon's activity is extremely low and is still
> alpha after 5 years. LEDS is even less active, and DDT doesn't have a
> release yet.  What do actual D programmers use?
>
> -Mike


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> Elephant appears dead.  Poseidon's activity is extremely low and is still alpha after 5 years. LEDS is even less active, and DDT doesn't have a release yet.  What do actual D programmers use?
>

Programmer's Notepad 2 ( http://www.pnotepad.org/ )

I've tried a TON of different editors and IDE's and that's the only one that doesn't irritate me. Small, fast, free, looks good, behaves well, configurable, D syntax highlighting out-of-the-box.