I agree totally. I'll work on it.

On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 15:15:54 +1100, Walter <newshound@digitalmars.com> wrote:

>
> "Walter" <newshound@digitalmars.com> wrote in message
> news:dee1ij$1pi2$1@digitaldaemon.com...
>>
>> "AJG" <AJG@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:deduje$1mca$1@digitaldaemon.com...
>> > Having said that, before some ungodly javascript floating hack is
>> > introduced to create the effect of a fixed menu, please consider using
>> > the official solution, which is CSS.
>> >
>> > Here's a simple example:
>> >
>> > http://limpid.nl/lab/css/fixed/left-sidebar
>> >
>> > Variations, including headers/footers, left and right, etc. can be  
>> found
>> > here:
>> >
>> > http://annevankesteren.nl/2004/07/fixed-positioning
>>
>> That looks pretty good.
>
> Oh darn, there is a problem with it - if the left-sidebar is taller than the
> screen. It can't be scrolled!
>

Such behaviour is completely controlled by overflow:hidden CSS option.

Walter wrote:
> I agree totally. I'll work on it.

Awesome.
--AJG.

"AJG" <AJG@nospam.com> wrote in message news:deeb3g$27o1$2@digitaldaemon.com...
> Walter wrote:
> > I agree totally. I'll work on it.
>
> Awesome.
> --AJG.

The phobos stuff is done. It only awaits google to reindex it before the search works.

In article <dee448$1sh0$1@digitaldaemon.com>, AJG says...
>
>Hi,
>
>zwang wrote:
>> Walter wrote:
>> 
>>> "Jarrett Billingsley" <kb3ctd2@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:ded3u7$hkf$1@digitaldaemon.com...
>>>
>>>> Awful.  Not only does it look like a beginner HTML coder made the site,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> No surprise there, I am a beginner html coder <g>.
>>>
>>>
>>>> it's also a pain to navigate.  I miss the frames.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The problem with frames is that no other web sites use them for navigation,
>> 
>> 
>> Sun's JDK online documentation uses frames;
>> Microsoft's MSDN documentation uses frames;
>> ...and many more.
>
>I can't speak for the Sun site, but the MSDN navigation menu is a god-forsaken creature best banished to the pits of hell. It's slow, clumsy, overly complex, convoluted, deeply-nested, and is known to crash IE. Worst of all, it uses frames, which are downright sinful by themselves. Avoid such design at _all_ costs.
>
>That's not to say the _content_ of MSDN is bad. In fact, not at all. It's navigation menu that is its Achille's Heel.

I absolutely agree. MSDN's navigation and slow and cumbersome. MSDN's content is good.

jcc7

In article <debngi$29kg$2@digitaldaemon.com>, Walter says...
>
>Improvement? Keep it?

Yes. And yes. I think it's a great improvement.

>www.digitalmars.com/d/index.html

By the way, I think you forgot to add the sidebar to the glossary: http://www.digitalmars.com/d/glossary.html

jcc7

"J C Calvarese" <technocrat7@gmail.com> wrote in message news:deenko$2oaq$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> By the way, I think you forgot to add the sidebar to the glossary: http://www.digitalmars.com/d/glossary.html

Fixed.

In case if any of you interested in html/css,
and in case didn't know that site before:

http://www.csszengarden.com/

"A demonstration of what can be accomplished visually through CSS-based design."

ElfQT

Derek Parnell wrote:
> On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 22:23:22 -0700, Walter wrote:
> 
>> Improvement? Keep it?
>>
>> www.digitalmars.com/d/index.html
> 
> Yes an improvement, though I didn't have a problem with frames. It looks
> cleaner, neater and pleasant.
<snip>

But still laden with the flaws I pointed out before from here on:

http://www.digitalmars.com/drn-bin/wwwnews?digitalmars.D/23990

Not to mention inconsistent fonts, an empty std_base64.html and still more pages that have been left out of the conversion:

- the techtips pages (which are in www.digitalmars.com/techtips not www.digitalmars.com/d but are clearly D-oriented - so what's supposed to happen here?)
- dnews.html
- builtin.html
- newsgroup archives

That reminds me Derek - you were going have a go at tidying up the pages.  How far have you got with it?

Stewart.

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Walter wrote:
> "J C Calvarese" <technocrat7@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:deenko$2oaq$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> 
>>By the way, I think you forgot to add the sidebar to the glossary:
>>http://www.digitalmars.com/d/glossary.html
> 
> 
> Fixed.
> 
> 

I think techtips has the same problem:

http://www.digitalmars.com/techtips/index.html