I really only have 1

1) That the D language version 1.0 is finalized and released in 2004. The window of opportunity closes a little each year for getting a new language off the ground and adopted by a decent sized developer community so it doesn't die a premature death.  I can't use it at work unless it becomes popular.

"Mark T" <Mark_member@pathlink.com> wrote in message news:bsvo4b$2ilg$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> I really only have 1
>
> 1) That the D language version 1.0 is finalized and released in 2004. The
window
> of opportunity closes a little each year for getting a new language off
the
> ground and adopted by a decent sized developer community so it doesn't die
a
> premature death.  I can't use it at work unless it becomes popular.

I for one will be very surprised if that does not happen

"Mark T" <Mark_member@pathlink.com> wrote in message news:bsvo4b$2ilg$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> I really only have 1
>
> 1) That the D language version 1.0 is finalized and released in 2004. The
window
> of opportunity closes a little each year for getting a new language off
the
> ground and adopted by a decent sized developer community so it doesn't die
a
> premature death.  I can't use it at work unless it becomes popular.

I think it's pretty close. I'm finishing up what I hope will be the last bit of new features, and then it'll be bug fixing. D 1.0 will probably be the most powerful 1.0 language ever released!

Would people be interested in creating a comp.lang.d usenet group to approximately correspond with the 1.0 release?

The process is a little involved, so I won't do it unless a majority of people here are in support and will in turn vote for it on the usenet. This potenially would allow a larger audience and make things easier to seach for. The down-side is group spam. I was thinking that the general D language could be discussed in comp.lang.d and DMD compiler issues would remain in this group.

http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/faqs/big-eight.html

Marco


In article <bt0vff$17ev$1@digitaldaemon.com>, Walter says...
>
>
>"Mark T" <Mark_member@pathlink.com> wrote in message news:bsvo4b$2ilg$1@digitaldaemon.com...
>> I really only have 1
>>
>> 1) That the D language version 1.0 is finalized and released in 2004. The
>window
>> of opportunity closes a little each year for getting a new language off
>the
>> ground and adopted by a decent sized developer community so it doesn't die
>a
>> premature death.  I can't use it at work unless it becomes popular.
>
>I think it's pretty close. I'm finishing up what I hope will be the last bit of new features, and then it'll be bug fixing. D 1.0 will probably be the most powerful 1.0 language ever released!
>
>

I'll vote for it!

"Marco A" <Marco_member@pathlink.com> wrote in message news:btfkfk$2bs2$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> Would people be interested in creating a comp.lang.d usenet group to approximately correspond with the 1.0 release?
>
> The process is a little involved, so I won't do it unless a majority of
people
> here are in support and will in turn vote for it on the usenet. This
potenially
> would allow a larger audience and make things easier to seach for. The
down-side
> is group spam. I was thinking that the general D language could be
discussed in
> comp.lang.d and DMD compiler issues would remain in this group.
>
> http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/faqs/big-eight.html
>
> Marco
>
>
> In article <bt0vff$17ev$1@digitaldaemon.com>, Walter says...
> >
> >
> >"Mark T" <Mark_member@pathlink.com> wrote in message news:bsvo4b$2ilg$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> >> I really only have 1
> >>
> >> 1) That the D language version 1.0 is finalized and released in 2004.
The
> >window
> >> of opportunity closes a little each year for getting a new language off
> >the
> >> ground and adopted by a decent sized developer community so it doesn't
die
> >a
> >> premature death.  I can't use it at work unless it becomes popular.
> >
> >I think it's pretty close. I'm finishing up what I hope will be the last
bit
> >of new features, and then it'll be bug fixing. D 1.0 will probably be the most powerful 1.0 language ever released!
> >
> >
>
>

"Marco A" wrote...
> Would people be interested in creating a comp.lang.d usenet group to approximately correspond with the 1.0 release?
>
> The process is a little involved, so I won't do it unless a majority
of people
> here are in support and will in turn vote for it on the usenet. This
potenially
> would allow a larger audience and make things easier to seach for.
The down-side
> is group spam. I was thinking that the general D language could be
discussed in
> comp.lang.d and DMD compiler issues would remain in this group.
>
> http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/faqs/big-eight.html
>

Sure. It'll increase visibility and subsequently more user and etc etc...

But as you obviously know, don't bother unless you're sure we can get enough votes for it. That will probably required all the people here willing (and actually do when the time comes) to vote yes for it plus possibly some more....

KTC
-- 
Experience is a good school but the fees are high.
    - Heinrich Heine

Good idea!

I would definitely vote for it if I could. What is also nice about getting it into "The big eight" is that it will be indexed and searchable via "groups.google.com". This will make the spam problem negligible because results will be searched for not browsed. I would start the process as soon as possible. If it doesn't work out digtalmars can put there news server into the larger usenet feed and then it can be added into google.

Marco A wrote:
> Would people be interested in creating a comp.lang.d usenet group to
> approximately correspond with the 1.0 release?
> 
> The process is a little involved, so I won't do it unless a majority of people
> here are in support and will in turn vote for it on the usenet. This potenially
> would allow a larger audience and make things easier to seach for. The down-side
> is group spam. I was thinking that the general D language could be discussed in
> comp.lang.d and DMD compiler issues would remain in this group.
> 
> http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/faqs/big-eight.html
> 
> Marco
> 
> 
> In article <bt0vff$17ev$1@digitaldaemon.com>, Walter says...
> 
>>
>>"Mark T" <Mark_member@pathlink.com> wrote in message
>>news:bsvo4b$2ilg$1@digitaldaemon.com...
>>
>>>I really only have 1
>>>
>>>1) That the D language version 1.0 is finalized and released in 2004. The
>>
>>window
>>
>>>of opportunity closes a little each year for getting a new language off
>>
>>the
>>
>>>ground and adopted by a decent sized developer community so it doesn't die
>>
>>a
>>
>>>premature death.  I can't use it at work unless it becomes popular.
>>
>>I think it's pretty close. I'm finishing up what I hope will be the last bit
>>of new features, and then it'll be bug fixing. D 1.0 will probably be the
>>most powerful 1.0 language ever released!
>>
>>
> 
> 
> 

In article <bthf50$25e3$1@digitaldaemon.com>, KTC says...
>
>
>"Marco A" wrote...
>> Would people be interested in creating a comp.lang.d usenet group to approximately correspond with the 1.0 release?
>Sure. It'll increase visibility and subsequently more user and etc But as you obviously know, don't bother unless you're sure we can get enough votes for it. That will probably required all the people here willing (and actually do when the time comes) to vote yes for it plus possibly some more....

I think this would also reduce clutter here, move some of the newbie questions out of here, give more credibility to the language, etc.

I'm pretty sure everyone here would vote for the newsgroup! Just tell us when and where to vote, when it's time!

BTW, how many votes does one need nowadays?

I say go for it, as long as Walter does not have any objections.

It'd be nice if we could get comp.lang.d, D 1.0, and one or two other things (a journal, perhaps) all going before the middle of the year.

"Georg Wrede" <Georg_member@pathlink.com> wrote in message news:bti17o$1bo$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> In article <bthf50$25e3$1@digitaldaemon.com>, KTC says...
> >
> >
> >"Marco A" wrote...
> >> Would people be interested in creating a comp.lang.d usenet group to approximately correspond with the 1.0 release?
> >Sure. It'll increase visibility and subsequently more user and etc But as you obviously know, don't bother unless you're sure we can get enough votes for it. That will probably required all the people here willing (and actually do when the time comes) to vote yes for it plus possibly some more....
>
> I think this would also reduce clutter here, move some of the newbie questions out of here, give more credibility to the language, etc.
>
> I'm pretty sure everyone here would vote for the newsgroup! Just tell us when and where to vote, when it's time!
>
> BTW, how many votes does one need nowadays?
>
>

"Georg Wrede" wrote...
>
> BTW, how many votes does one need nowadays?
>

"Each separate proposed change will be considered to have passed if and only if it received at least 100 more YES than NO votes and received at least twice as many YES as NO votes."