Ok.. it's probably a little rough still, but I think it's usable now. I've got bugzilla setup here:

    http://d.puremagic.com/bugzilla/

Any new bugs or changes to existing bugs will be sent through to digitalmars.D.bugs.  Any messages posted in the newsgroup with the subject matching /bugs.*\d+/i will be auto appended to the referenced bug if the 'from' email address matches a registered user.  The entire body of the message will be recorded, so please trim the body down to the really relevant information.  There's no need for the body to contain the entire contents of all past conversations since they will already be in the db.

I have NOT gone back and opened bugs for already reported bugs, except the one I used for testing.  Please feel free to do so for bugs you know to be still open.

The products and components available for filing bugs are still somewhat skeletal.  I'm sure there will be some rearrangements as we start to accumulate data.

I'm certainly open to suggestions on all facets of the system.  My goal is to provide a trackable system that allows us all to better understand the state of the d language and it's supporting pieces.

If you'd prefer to comment privately, that's welcome as well.

Later,
Brad

Brad Roberts wrote:

> I'm certainly open to suggestions on all facets of the system.  My goal is to provide a trackable system that allows us all to better understand the state of the d language and it's supporting pieces.

Sounds great!
Just a little surprised, that you got Walter to accept Bugzilla... :-)
I thought he actually preferred the old newsgroup/email bug reporting ?

http://www.digitalmars.com/d/archives/19733.html
http://www.digitalmars.com/d/archives/23880.html
http://www.digitalmars.com/d/archives/28207.html

Or maybe it's just a part of D "growing up" and maturing for a release ?

--anders

Brad Roberts wrote:
> Ok.. it's probably a little rough still, but I think it's usable now. I've got bugzilla setup here:
> 
>     http://d.puremagic.com/bugzilla/
> 
> Any new bugs or changes to existing bugs will be sent through to digitalmars.D.bugs.  Any messages posted in the newsgroup with the subject matching /bugs.*\d+/i will be auto appended to the referenced bug if the 'from' email address matches a registered user.

As a safeguard: how about ensuring that the "References:" header in incomming news posts contains the message id that the first post of the bug had?

> I'm certainly open to suggestions on all facets of the system.

The "References:" header of follow ups posted by bugzilla seems to be broken:

first message
Message-ID: <mailman.7.1141527035.5269.digitalmars-d-bugs@puremagic.com>

followup
Message-ID: <mailman.8.1141542098.5269.digitalmars-d-bugs@puremagic.com>
References: <bug-10-3@http.d.puremagic.com/bugzilla/>
In-Reply-To: <bug-10-3@http.d.puremagic.com/bugzilla/>

Thomas

On Sun, 5 Mar 2006, Thomas Kühne wrote:

> Brad Roberts wrote:
> > Ok.. it's probably a little rough still, but I think it's usable now. I've got bugzilla setup here:
> > 
> >     http://d.puremagic.com/bugzilla/
> > 
> > Any new bugs or changes to existing bugs will be sent through to digitalmars.D.bugs.  Any messages posted in the newsgroup with the subject matching /bugs.*\d+/i will be auto appended to the referenced bug if the 'from' email address matches a registered user.
> 
> As a safeguard: how about ensuring that the "References:" header in incomming news posts contains the message id that the first post of the bug had?
> 
> > I'm certainly open to suggestions on all facets of the system.
> 
> The "References:" header of follow ups posted by bugzilla seems to be broken:
> 
> first message
> Message-ID: <mailman.7.1141527035.5269.digitalmars-d-bugs@puremagic.com>
> 
> followup
> Message-ID: <mailman.8.1141542098.5269.digitalmars-d-bugs@puremagic.com>
> References: <bug-10-3@http.d.puremagic.com/bugzilla/>
> In-Reply-To: <bug-10-3@http.d.puremagic.com/bugzilla/>
> 
> Thomas

From bug 11 forward, that's fixed.  It's something I knew was broken but decided to defer fixing and go ahead and get the word out.  The problem was that mailman was replacing the message-id's bugzilla was inserting.  I hacked up bugzilla to post directly to the news group (which will get picked up by mailman and forwarded on to the subscribers to the list). That keeps the message-id in tact and all future bugzilla based emails contain a proper references field already, as you've shown above.

Good idea, way ahead of ya. :)

Later,
Brad

In article <due7nn$2bc9$1@digitaldaemon.com>, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Anders_F_Bj=F6rklund?= says...
>
>Brad Roberts wrote:
>
>> I'm certainly open to suggestions on all facets of the system.  My goal is to provide a trackable system that allows us all to better understand the state of the d language and it's supporting pieces.
>
>Sounds great!
>Just a little surprised, that you got Walter to accept Bugzilla... :-)
>I thought he actually preferred the old newsgroup/email bug reporting ?
>
>http://www.digitalmars.com/d/archives/19733.html http://www.digitalmars.com/d/archives/23880.html http://www.digitalmars.com/d/archives/28207.html
>
>Or maybe it's just a part of D "growing up" and maturing for a release ?
>
>--anders

Let's not get hung up on past conversations and any motivations.  It's not productive anyway.  Let's just actively show how much value having it can add and improve things by using it effectively.

So, don't let the lack of currently entered bugs deter you (or anyone) from starting to create new ones.  There's a chicken vs the egg issue to get past as soon as we can (it's not used much so why bother, but if it was used then it'd be obvious to use it).

Some bugs worth filing, for anyone who has the desire to help out:

1) dstress bugs that are failing
2) missing or inaccurate docs in the language or phobos web pages
3) old bugs from this newsgroup that seem to have gotten lost in the shuffle.

Later,
Brad

braddr@puremagic.com wrote:

> Let's not get hung up on past conversations and any motivations.  It's not
> productive anyway.  Let's just actively show how much value having it can add
> and improve things by using it effectively.
> 
> So, don't let the lack of currently entered bugs deter you (or anyone) from
> starting to create new ones.  There's a chicken vs the egg issue to get past as
> soon as we can (it's not used much so why bother, but if it was used then it'd
> be obvious to use it).

Sure, it's just that I don't want to duplicate too much effort...

I seem to have written a lot of docs, and patches, and bugs that
don't seem to be used, and it's a little annoying in the long run.

So that's why I wanted to know if it had the "official" blessing ?

--anders

braddr@puremagic.com wrote:

> Some bugs worth filing, for anyone who has the desire to help out:
> 
> 1) dstress bugs that are failing
> 2) missing or inaccurate docs in the language or phobos web pages
> 3) old bugs from this newsgroup that seem to have gotten lost in the shuffle.

I'm also going through the old RFE lists from Wiki4D at:
http://www.prowiki.org/wiki4d/wiki.cgi?FeatureRequestList
http://www.prowiki.org/wiki4d/wiki.cgi?PendingPeeves

If nothing else, it's good to know which ones are rejected already
since the same "suggestions" seem to be coming up again and again ?

There is also a lot of pending items in the spec/docs listed at:
http://www.prowiki.org/wiki4d/wiki.cgi?DocComments (linked from DM)
http://www.prowiki.org/wiki4d/wiki.cgi?DocumentationAmendments (TODO)


Request:
When adding old bugs, please add a reference to the old one like so:
http://www.digitalmars.com/drn-bin/wwwnews?digitalmars.D.bugs/5851

Just like Walter does on the DMD Change Log:
http://www.digitalmars.com/d/changelog.html

--anders

Brad Roberts wrote:
> Ok.. it's probably a little rough still, but I think it's usable now.  I've got bugzilla setup here:
> 
>     http://d.puremagic.com/bugzilla/

For what it's worth, it seems my spam filter trashed the confirm email so I never saw it.  But I was able to go through the "I lost my password" process and that one made it.  So if anyone didn't get a prompt reply when registering, that's likely the cause.


Sean

"Anders F Björklund" <afb@algonet.se> wrote in message news:duegls$2ljo$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> braddr@puremagic.com wrote:
> I seem to have written a lot of docs, and patches, and bugs that
> don't seem to be used, and it's a little annoying in the long run.

I know it's annoying. There are so many postings here, things often do get overlooked by me.

> So that's why I wanted to know if it had the "official" blessing ?

Brad is willing to take charge of this, like Thomas is doing for dstress, so I think it will work out. I was resistant to it in the past because I didn't have the time to manage such a system. Thomas has made an enormous contribution to D with dstress, and I think Brad with bugzilla will as well.

Walter Bright wrote:

>>I seem to have written a lot of docs, and patches, and bugs that
>>don't seem to be used, and it's a little annoying in the long run.
> 
> I know it's annoying. There are so many postings here, things often do get overlooked by me.

I was more looking to streamline the process, not really annoyed,
actually surprised you've managed to find as much as you have :-)
This new bugzilla will work great I think, it's a common tool now.

At the moment I don't have so much time for coding, just packaging.
I'm slowly collecting what will eventually be a full GNU toolchain...
(compiler, debugger, IDE, GUI - all cross platform and open source)

--anders