Does anyone have such a thing.  I *do not* have the IDE.  I'm trying to construct a simple large-model, 16-bit app using command line and a hand-edited makefile.  Right now I'm getting all kinds of header errors trying to build this app.  It seems like there are probably a number of #defines I need to make in order for the headers to pass muster but I don't know what they are.  In other words, the errors are occurring directly inside the stock header files long before it even gets to my actual code.

Mark

Mark Evans wrote:

> Does anyone have such a thing.  I *do not* have the IDE.  I'm trying to construct a simple large-model, 16-bit app using command line
> and a hand-edited makefile.  Right now I'm getting all kinds of header errors trying to build this app.  It seems like there are probably a
> number of #defines I need to make in order for the headers to pass muster but I don't know what they are.  In other words, the errors are
> occurring directly inside the stock header files long before it even gets to my actual code.
>
> Mark

Which headers?  and what sort of error?  Can you give a simple example of what is going wrong?

John

John,

It turns out that there are huge differences and gaps between what a person can download from digitalmars.com and what will be available on the CD-ROM or what is available to people who owned a copy of Symantec C++.

The basic story is that the online archives did not include the win16 headers, which live in a separate folder include\win16.  Obviously without them I was lost.  Walter kindly supplied them.

Mark


On Wed, 02 May 2001 12:38:51 +0100, John Fletcher <J.P.Fletcher@aston.ac.uk> wrote:
> 
> 
> Mark Evans wrote:
> 
> > Does anyone have such a thing.  I *do not* have the IDE.  I'm trying to construct a simple large-model, 16-bit app using command line
> > and a hand-edited makefile.  Right now I'm getting all kinds of header errors trying to build this app.  It seems like there are probably a
> > number of #defines I need to make in order for the headers to pass muster but I don't know what they are.  In other words, the errors are
> > occurring directly inside the stock header files long before it even gets to my actual code.
> >
> > Mark
> 
> Which headers?  and what sort of error?  Can you give a simple example of what is going wrong?
> 
> John
> 
> 

The complete package is 300Mb, which is totally impractical for download.


Mark Evans wrote in message <1103_989321260@evans>...
>John,
>
>It turns out that there are huge differences and gaps between what a person
can download from digitalmars.com and what will be available on the CD-ROM or what is available to people who
>owned a copy of Symantec C++.
>
>The basic story is that the online archives did not include the win16
headers, which live in a separate folder include\win16.  Obviously without them I was lost.  Walter kindly supplied them.
>
>Mark
>
>
>On Wed, 02 May 2001 12:38:51 +0100, John Fletcher
<J.P.Fletcher@aston.ac.uk> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Mark Evans wrote:
>>
>> > Does anyone have such a thing.  I *do not* have the IDE.  I'm trying to
construct a simple large-model, 16-bit app using command line
>> > and a hand-edited makefile.  Right now I'm getting all kinds of header
errors trying to build this app.  It seems like there are probably a
>> > number of #defines I need to make in order for the headers to pass
muster but I don't know what they are.  In other words, the errors are
>> > occurring directly inside the stock header files long before it even
gets to my actual code.
>> >
>> > Mark
>>
>> Which headers?  and what sort of error?  Can you give a simple example of
what is going wrong?
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>
>

    What about posting it for the users who can download it? IMHO using
getright it is possible to be downloaded!


"Walter" <walter@digitalmars.com> escribió en el mensaje news:9d99hh$17na$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> The complete package is 300Mb, which is totally impractical for download.
>
>
> Mark Evans wrote in message <1103_989321260@evans>...
> >John,
> >
> >It turns out that there are huge differences and gaps between what a
person
> can download from digitalmars.com and what will be available on the CD-ROM or what is available to people who
> >owned a copy of Symantec C++.
> >
> >The basic story is that the online archives did not include the win16
> headers, which live in a separate folder include\win16.  Obviously without them I was lost.  Walter kindly supplied them.
> >
> >Mark
> >
> >
> >On Wed, 02 May 2001 12:38:51 +0100, John Fletcher
> <J.P.Fletcher@aston.ac.uk> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Mark Evans wrote:
> >>
> >> > Does anyone have such a thing.  I *do not* have the IDE.  I'm trying
to
> construct a simple large-model, 16-bit app using command line
> >> > and a hand-edited makefile.  Right now I'm getting all kinds of
header
> errors trying to build this app.  It seems like there are probably a
> >> > number of #defines I need to make in order for the headers to pass
> muster but I don't know what they are.  In other words, the errors are
> >> > occurring directly inside the stock header files long before it even
> gets to my actual code.
> >> >
> >> > Mark
> >>
> >> Which headers?  and what sort of error?  Can you give a simple example
of
> what is going wrong?
> >>
> >> John
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

Please, could you use an other program for FTP than getright?
IMHO getright is one of the worst programs for FTP as it seem to open any
possible connection to a server. In other words, if a server has 10 slots left
for FTP connections a single user using getright will get all of them! For what
reason??? I really do not know. It hardly makes any sense to me at all.

As for the size, 300 Mb size. I agree with Walter for 200%. It's totally impractical for download. The program being used hardly makes any difference in whether it is impractical or not.

Don't worry, be Kneppie!
Jan



"Javier Gutiérrez" wrote:

>     What about posting it for the users who can download it? IMHO using
> getright it is possible to be downloaded!
>
> "Walter" <walter@digitalmars.com> escribió en el mensaje news:9d99hh$17na$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> > The complete package is 300Mb, which is totally impractical for download.
> >
> >
> > Mark Evans wrote in message <1103_989321260@evans>...
> > >John,
> > >
> > >It turns out that there are huge differences and gaps between what a
> person
> > can download from digitalmars.com and what will be available on the CD-ROM or what is available to people who
> > >owned a copy of Symantec C++.
> > >
> > >The basic story is that the online archives did not include the win16
> > headers, which live in a separate folder include\win16.  Obviously without them I was lost.  Walter kindly supplied them.
> > >
> > >Mark
> > >
> > >
> > >On Wed, 02 May 2001 12:38:51 +0100, John Fletcher
> > <J.P.Fletcher@aston.ac.uk> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Mark Evans wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > Does anyone have such a thing.  I *do not* have the IDE.  I'm trying
> to
> > construct a simple large-model, 16-bit app using command line
> > >> > and a hand-edited makefile.  Right now I'm getting all kinds of
> header
> > errors trying to build this app.  It seems like there are probably a
> > >> > number of #defines I need to make in order for the headers to pass
> > muster but I don't know what they are.  In other words, the errors are
> > >> > occurring directly inside the stock header files long before it even
> > gets to my actual code.
> > >> >
> > >> > Mark
> > >>
> > >> Which headers?  and what sort of error?  Can you give a simple example
> of
> > what is going wrong?
> > >>
> > >> John
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >

While I respect the fact that 300 MB is too much for download, it's also a figure much, much bigger than what I needed to get going with 16-bit code.

I think at least it makes sense to post the code I got by private email.

Mark



On Wed, 09 May 2001 15:54:30 -0400, Jan Knepper <jan@smartsoft.cc> wrote:
> Please, could you use an other program for FTP than getright?
> IMHO getright is one of the worst programs for FTP as it seem to open any
> possible connection to a server. In other words, if a server has 10 slots left
> for FTP connections a single user using getright will get all of them! For what
> reason??? I really do not know. It hardly makes any sense to me at all.
> 
> As for the size, 300 Mb size. I agree with Walter for 200%. It's totally impractical for download. The program being used hardly makes any difference in whether it is impractical or not.
> 
> Don't worry, be Kneppie!
> Jan
> 
> 
> 
> "Javier Gutiérrez" wrote:
> 
> >     What about posting it for the users who can download it? IMHO using
> > getright it is possible to be downloaded!
> >
> > "Walter" <walter@digitalmars.com> escribió en el mensaje news:9d99hh$17na$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> > > The complete package is 300Mb, which is totally impractical for download.
> > >
> > >
> > > Mark Evans wrote in message <1103_989321260@evans>...
> > > >John,
> > > >
> > > >It turns out that there are huge differences and gaps between what a
> > person
> > > can download from digitalmars.com and what will be available on the CD-ROM or what is available to people who
> > > >owned a copy of Symantec C++.
> > > >
> > > >The basic story is that the online archives did not include the win16
> > > headers, which live in a separate folder include\win16.  Obviously without them I was lost.  Walter kindly supplied them.
> > > >
> > > >Mark
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >On Wed, 02 May 2001 12:38:51 +0100, John Fletcher
> > > <J.P.Fletcher@aston.ac.uk> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Mark Evans wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > Does anyone have such a thing.  I *do not* have the IDE.  I'm trying
> > to
> > > construct a simple large-model, 16-bit app using command line
> > > >> > and a hand-edited makefile.  Right now I'm getting all kinds of
> > header
> > > errors trying to build this app.  It seems like there are probably a
> > > >> > number of #defines I need to make in order for the headers to pass
> > > muster but I don't know what they are.  In other words, the errors are
> > > >> > occurring directly inside the stock header files long before it even
> > > gets to my actual code.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Mark
> > > >>
> > > >> Which headers?  and what sort of error?  Can you give a simple example
> > of
> > > what is going wrong?
> > > >>
> > > >> John
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> 

May be the (minimal) stuff for DOS16 bit, DOS 32 bit, Windows 16 bit and Windows 32 bit could be published in separate downloadable archives. I am not
sure however whether or not the license agreements cover "free" download for all that stuff.

Don't worry, be Kneppie!
Jan



Mark Evans wrote:

> While I respect the fact that 300 MB is too much for download, it's also a figure much, much bigger than what I needed to get going with 16-bit code.
>
> I think at least it makes sense to post the code I got by private email.
>
> Mark
>
> On Wed, 09 May 2001 15:54:30 -0400, Jan Knepper <jan@smartsoft.cc> wrote:
> > Please, could you use an other program for FTP than getright?
> > IMHO getright is one of the worst programs for FTP as it seem to open any
> > possible connection to a server. In other words, if a server has 10 slots left
> > for FTP connections a single user using getright will get all of them! For what
> > reason??? I really do not know. It hardly makes any sense to me at all.
> >
> > As for the size, 300 Mb size. I agree with Walter for 200%. It's totally impractical for download. The program being used hardly makes any difference in whether it is impractical or not.
> >
> > Don't worry, be Kneppie!
> > Jan
> >
> >
> >
> > "Javier Gutiérrez" wrote:
> >
> > >     What about posting it for the users who can download it? IMHO using
> > > getright it is possible to be downloaded!
> > >
> > > "Walter" <walter@digitalmars.com> escribió en el mensaje news:9d99hh$17na$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> > > > The complete package is 300Mb, which is totally impractical for download.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Mark Evans wrote in message <1103_989321260@evans>...
> > > > >John,
> > > > >
> > > > >It turns out that there are huge differences and gaps between what a
> > > person
> > > > can download from digitalmars.com and what will be available on the CD-ROM or what is available to people who
> > > > >owned a copy of Symantec C++.
> > > > >
> > > > >The basic story is that the online archives did not include the win16
> > > > headers, which live in a separate folder include\win16.  Obviously without them I was lost.  Walter kindly supplied them.
> > > > >
> > > > >Mark
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >On Wed, 02 May 2001 12:38:51 +0100, John Fletcher
> > > > <J.P.Fletcher@aston.ac.uk> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Mark Evans wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > Does anyone have such a thing.  I *do not* have the IDE.  I'm trying
> > > to
> > > > construct a simple large-model, 16-bit app using command line
> > > > >> > and a hand-edited makefile.  Right now I'm getting all kinds of
> > > header
> > > > errors trying to build this app.  It seems like there are probably a
> > > > >> > number of #defines I need to make in order for the headers to pass
> > > > muster but I don't know what they are.  In other words, the errors are
> > > > >> > occurring directly inside the stock header files long before it even
> > > > gets to my actual code.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Mark
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Which headers?  and what sort of error?  Can you give a simple example
> > > of
> > > > what is going wrong?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> John
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >

Walter wrote:
> 
> The complete package is 300Mb, which is totally impractical for download.
> 

Just after I posted a comment on this I found the reference with the size quoted!

Taking profit of this post, may I suggest another possibility to spread the DM compiler?

Consider arranging deals with magazines which publish cover CDs/DVDs. I vote for PCPlus, http://www.pcplus.co.uk, but probalbly there are many other worth consideration.

Regards and congratulations for bringing this compiler back!

Cesar

Thanks! It's fun to be back in the compiler biz again. -Walter

Does the magazine pay to do the cover CD?

Cesar Rabak wrote in message <3B4BB152.CA7C65FE@uol.com.br>...
>Walter wrote:
>>
>> The complete package is 300Mb, which is totally impractical for download.
>>
>
>Just after I posted a comment on this I found the reference with the size quoted!
>
>Taking profit of this post, may I suggest another possibility to spread the DM compiler?
>
>Consider arranging deals with magazines which publish cover CDs/DVDs. I vote for PCPlus, http://www.pcplus.co.uk, but probalbly there are many other worth consideration.
>
>Regards and congratulations for bringing this compiler back!
>
>Cesar