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Andrei

hah, I have a PV solar module sitting in my house right now... I'll be installing it (and the rest of my setup) as soon as I have another two or the grand to spend.

It is great stuff, solar power is almost free money if you can wait 20 years for it.

On Tuesday, 11 June 2013 at 15:28:09 UTC, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
> hah, I have a PV solar module sitting in my house right now... I'll be installing it (and the rest of my setup) as soon as I have another two or the grand to spend.
>
> It is great stuff, solar power is almost free money if you can wait 20 years for it.

True dat. Combine that with good government subsidies and a deal to sell the power back to the grid and it's more like 10 years, max

On Tuesday, 11 June 2013 at 16:19:20 UTC, John Colvin wrote:
> On Tuesday, 11 June 2013 at 15:28:09 UTC, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
>> hah, I have a PV solar module sitting in my house right now... I'll be installing it (and the rest of my setup) as soon as I have another two or the grand to spend.
>>
>> It is great stuff, solar power is almost free money if you can wait 20 years for it.
>
> True dat. Combine that with good government subsidies and a deal to sell the power back to the grid and it's more like 10 years, max

And this is in miserable, cloudy, rainy England. They must pump out a lot more in somewhere like California.

On Tuesday, 11 June 2013 at 16:19:20 UTC, John Colvin wrote:
> Combine that with good government subsidies and a deal to sell the power back to the grid and it's more like 10 years, max

Aye, that's what I was hoping to get (New York State would have given like 50% money back).... but alas I went and bought a house with a west/east facing roof, and a gigantic tree due south from me.

The installer estimated I could still get maybe 70% of the system's capacity out of it, but the tax rebates get small fast if you go below 80%. My electric usage is small too, so the cost of installation adds up....

but still, it is virtually guaranteed to pay for itself over its lifetime and I have a good chance of turning a profit from it. That's so cool.

Only downside is the upfront cost, and that isn't even *that* bad. And I guess my equipment waiting to be installed uses a grid tie inverter, so if main power goes out, I'm still out, no independence there. But buying batteries and switches for that would just about double the cost, and 99% of the time, grid power is on anyway so just not worth it for me.

On 6/11/2013 8:28 AM, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
> It is great stuff, solar power is almost free money if you can wait 20 years for
> it.

Yeah, but you'll have to replace it before 20 years!

Am 11.06.2013 14:33, schrieb Andrei Alexandrescu:
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> Andrei

Regarding the IDE thing, did you ever try Kdevelop? Never crashed on me, has syntax highlighting, really basic completion (based on already written *words*, so really basic), but the amazing gdb integration known from C/C++ works! Definitly worth a look.

On Tuesday, 11 June 2013 at 18:47:35 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
> On 6/11/2013 8:28 AM, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
>> It is great stuff, solar power is almost free money if you can wait 20 years for
>> it.
>
> Yeah, but you'll have to replace it before 20 years!

Source? There's not much that wears out in a photovoltaic AFAIK. The associated electrical components may break however, especially on some of the more complex setups.

On Tuesday, 11 June 2013 at 18:47:35 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
> Yeah, but you'll have to replace it before 20 years!

Here's the beauty of it though: the manufacturer offers a 25 year warranty! I've heard stories of PV panels from the 70's still working too. I betcha the lifetime depends on your local weather conditions and such, I know heat can damage them over time, which might be a positive for being here in a colder area.

On Tue, 11 Jun 2013 15:21:31 -0400, John Colvin <john.loughran.colvin@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tuesday, 11 June 2013 at 18:47:35 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
>> On 6/11/2013 8:28 AM, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
>>> It is great stuff, solar power is almost free money if you can wait 20 years for
>>> it.
>>
>> Yeah, but you'll have to replace it before 20 years!
>
> Source? There's not much that wears out in a photovoltaic AFAIK. The associated electrical components may break however, especially on some of the more complex setups.

I have to laugh at this.  "Solar is *almost* free money *if* you can wait 20 years"

Solar isn't ready yet.  It's not cost effective.  But cost effectiveness isn't even the issue.  It's not sustainable.  You need fossil fuels to mine the materials, ship them, assemble the components, etc.  Until you can power all those things with pure solar, you are still dependent on fossil fuel.

I've seen all these "Solar farm" installations, and they are butt-ugly.  I find it ironic that we are cutting down trees to make room for these things...

You can save energy more cost effectively in other ways.  I have no doubt that solar technology will continue to innovate, but the worst thing we can do right now is subsidize it.  When it's ready (and it will be), it will succeed on its own merits.

-Steve