On Thursday, 17 March 2016 at 22:02:47 UTC, WhatMeWorry wrote:
> On Thursday, 17 March 2016 at 20:03:08 UTC, John Carter wrote:
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>> https://www.gnome.org/outreachy/
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> Google, Intel, HP, Bloomberg, etc are sponsoring this outreach. D does not have any such luxury.
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> Listen, I would love that more women were interested in programming languages. I've seen many good women programmers (my wife was one) but it is usually for a paid job.  I doubt you'll find many women who program out of the sheer pleasure of it, or who will spend their free time holed up in front of a workstation figuring out the inner working of mixins or traits.
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> But don't feel too bad. Females vastly outnumber men in the veterinary and biology fields. I don't see their web sites going out of their way to "welcome" me.

This is very true. I know that, particularly in academia, there is an enormous amount of additional funding to entice women to enter the STEM subjects, particularly engineering/computer science. I don't believe many, if any, other fields have similar outreach programs.

D's community is very open and welcoming, certainly focusing on merit above all.

On Thursday, 17 March 2016 at 16:17:46 UTC, Karabuta wrote:
> Are there any female programmers using D? :)
> Moreover, the socia Media representation of D sucks. I think we need a female, at least someone soft and mortal who actually understand how to communicate and build a community. Coders suck at these things and its not helping. This is not about gender balance crap, it about building a community.
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> Forgive me for my brutal opinion.
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> Destroy :)

This very sexist and you are clearly either very young or a closet misogynist. If you want more women to join the D community first you need to understand why your dull and inane comments are extremely degrading.

And it isn't your use of the word female - figure it out then grow up.

bye,
lobo

> This very sexist and you are clearly either very young or a closet
misogynist

Great, so you answer a poorly thought out attempt to encourage women to join this community by bashing on younger people?

On Thursday, 17 March 2016 at 20:03:08 UTC, John Carter wrote:
> So a simple statement of welcome and some level of outreach would go a long way.
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> https://www.gnome.org/outreachy/

First the women outreach program was a financial disaster for gnome, see: http://www.pcworld.com/article/2143160/gnome-foundation-faces-cash-crunch-over-women-outreach-program.html

Second, I love these that think women are too dumb to know they can contribute unless we explicit tell them so are the one giving lessons to others about sexism. You guys are projecting so hard you should open a theater.

On 3/17/2016 9:17 AM, Karabuta wrote:
>  Moreover, the socia Media representation of D sucks. I think we need a female,
> at least someone soft and mortal who actually understand how to communicate and
> build a community. Coders suck at these things and its not helping. This is not
> about gender balance crap, it about building a community.


As far as the D community goes, I don't care about anyone's gender, politics, age, race, disabilities, charisma, social skills, country, history, personal hygiene, religion, etc. I only care about ability, commitment, and contributions to D, i.e. a meritocracy, as close as we can get to one.

Many D community members are known only by their online handles, which they pick themselves. If they choose to have an anonymizing layer, it is their right to do so, and if anyone "unmasks" such contributors, I consider it an egregious affront to the community.

I do ask that people use real names for github commitments, and this is for legal reasons in case there is some problem with the rights to the code, but if they choose not to, they choose not to, and we will respect that.

We make no attempt to track online users of the D sites, either. (Though be aware that github does, we don't control github.)

As discussed in an earlier thread, I refuse to have a "Code of Conduct" for the forums or the D conferences.

On Thursday, 17 March 2016 at 16:17:46 UTC, Karabuta wrote:
> Are there any female programmers using D? :)

I can think of 3 on the top of my head, there won't be active in this forum though like the largest part of the community.

On Thursday, 17 March 2016 at 22:36:41 UTC, maarten van damme wrote:
>> This very sexist and you are clearly either very young or a closet
> misogynist
>
> Great, so you answer a poorly thought out attempt to encourage women to join this community by bashing on younger people?

The comments don't deserve diplomacy and are highly offensive. The OP needs to realise we're not all soft and mushy creatures incapable of cutting code. Besides the OP himself said it was a brutal opinion and therefore it deserves a brutal answer.

And this is the internet after all so it's the place to have pointless debates.

On Thursday, 17 March 2016 at 22:28:34 UTC, lobo wrote:
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> And it isn't your use of the word female - figure it out then grow up.
>

I care so little about this thread, but the focus on the word female is interesting. I don't recall anyone ever complaining about referring to women as females until this thread. Maybe it's the international nature of the forum.

On Thursday, 17 March 2016 at 17:42:43 UTC, John Colvin wrote:

> P.S. what's with calling women "females", is it an americanism? It sounds super weird to a British ear, we'd normally only say "female" in a technical setting or about an animal, so it can sound a bit disrespectful.

As an American, it seems more natural to me to use 'female' and 'male' as adjectives, as we're bombarded with that usage from birth. It's not a conscious decision, but 'woman programmer' just makes me cringe (even if you view it as a compound noun). To me, *that* sounds insulting, though I would be be hard pressed to explain why. When it comes to non-compound nouns, 'man' and 'woman' are the 'correct' choice. 'Male' and 'female' as nouns are what you would expect to see in a research paper or text book.

Then again, America's large enough that there may also be a regional aspect to it, though I don't believe that's the case.

On Thursday, 17 March 2016 at 23:00:51 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
> As discussed in an earlier thread, I refuse to have a "Code of Conduct" for the forums or the D conferences.

As long as you moderate it just means that the "code of conduct" is your own personal views. I.e. People have to second guess what the code is, ref "mainstream american norms".