(If this message is off-topic/disallowed I apologize dearly, and please feel free to remove this post if this is the case.)

Hello guys,

I have been programming for a couple of years in various different languages. A couple of weeks ago I decided that I would like to learn a new language, so I went ahead and began learning Rust.

Immediately I realized how toxic, egostic, and rude the Rust community was, and this made me very uncomfortable as when I learn new languages I often love to be a part of the community and interact with fellow programmers.

After that, I began to learn about all of the social justice/political statements that Rust was putting out over the last couple of years in regards to topics unrelated to programming, this made me feel very uncomfortable -- not necessarily because I disagreed with what they were saying (in fact I agreed with most statements), but mostly because I felt like politics shouldn't be involved in a programming language.

Eventually I gave up on Rust, I simply couldn't ignore these two issues that I had with the community and the core team. Rust had the right to make political statements, but I had the right not to use a language if that was the case.

For the next couple of days I was trying very hard to find an apolitical language to learn instead of Rust, and I stumbled across D. D seemed like a good language to learn and I saw that the community was EXTREMELY nice, although I am not sure whether D is an apolitical language (or whether they have been involved politically).

I am just here asking whether or not D will keep politics out of programming, et cetera, and look -- if D is political then I have absolutely no issue, in fact I respect this decision completely. It's just that when politics gets involved in programming it puts me off instantly, so that's why I asked.

Answers would be appreciated :D

Regards,
thebluepandabear

On Monday, 7 November 2022 at 05:30:20 UTC, thebluepandabear wrote:

D Forum is basically a technical forum.

On Monday, 7 November 2022 at 05:45:35 UTC, zjh wrote:

For me, I hope that D can strengthen interfacing C++, or enhance betterC.
In addition, the standard library should support betterC in most cases, so that everyone does not have to create a betterC version of the standard library.

Rust is not good for me. I think D can write an article or two to talk about D's advantages over rust.
1
2

On Monday, 7 November 2022 at 05:53:49 UTC, thebluepandabear wrote:

D Forum is very open and inclusive. Don't apologize, but don't be uncivilized.
Everyone is very relaxed and casual.

On Monday, 7 November 2022 at 05:57:51 UTC, zjh wrote:

Those are amazing principles, good to hear. 🙂 Hopefully I will be able to get answers 😀

On Monday, 7 November 2022 at 05:30:20 UTC, thebluepandabear wrote:

The only politics we discuss here is the politics surrounding the D management (basically. how the D project should be govern). Almost all topics are technical about D and compiler technology.

I been on the official rust forums as well like https://users.rust-lang.org/ and https://internals.rust-lang.org/ and to be honest I haven't seen anything political posts there.

On Monday, 7 November 2022 at 10:17:09 UTC, IGotD- wrote:

Hey thanks so much for answering,

I also have not seen any political statements from Rust forums. Most of it has been on their official Twitter page, at the start of version release notes, and the community. Rust has also - literally - stated that they are political in RustConf 2020. But best be respectful and not get into it as I am aware that people may have different opinions, my main question was whether D is political, which I now believe is not the case.